(Ah, I guess this is about "catching" any single initial counter increases
for slow-moving counters as well, so that rate outputs are not 0 on those)

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 18:15 Julius Volz <julius.v...@promlabs.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruno,
>
> Could you outline how returning 0 (instead of 1) for counters for their
> first scrape helps with the existence issues of a time series? The sample
> value of a series should have no effect on the series' existence.
>
> And as
> https://github.com/goto-opensource/smart-prometheus-client#counters-warm-up
> notes, it's important to point out here again that this is not really
> compatible with Prometheus' collection model where producers of metrics
> should not need to know how many Prometheus servers are scraping them, and
> GET requests to /metrics should be idempotent for that reason.
>
> Regards,
> Julius
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:12 PM Bruno Martinez <bmc.marti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Prometheus Community!
>>
>> There have been many discussions and issues related to the problem of new
>> timeseries and the increase() (example: here
>> <https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/1673>, or here
>> <https://github.com/prometheus/client_ruby/issues/141>) and even the
>> official documentation of Prometheus mentions to "avoid missing metrics
>> <https://prometheus.io/docs/practices/instrumentation/#avoid-missing-metrics>".
>>
>>
>> The workaround consist in manually initializing our metrics to 0. This
>> can become complex with vectors when we don't know in advance the
>> combination of label values, moreover we need to be sure the first scrape
>> from Prometheus include this 0 value.
>>
>> At Goto.com we implemented a solution
>> <https://github.com/goto-opensource/smart-prometheus-client> to this
>> problem that has been running in production for more than 1 year and we
>> decided to open it to the community.
>>
>> It's golang library extending the official client that ensure the first
>> collection(s) of counters always return 0 instead of their actual value.
>> This works for counters/histogram/summaries and the corresponding vectors.
>>
>> This is done in the background without anything to add in your
>> application code.
>>
>>
>> We hope this will help the community, try it!
>>
>> feedback are welcome.
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/goto-opensource/smart-prometheus-client
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>> Bruno
>>
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