Clément Pit-Claudel <clement....@gmail.com> writes:

> On 03/12/2018 10.33, Emilio Jesús Gallego Arias wrote:
>> I do believe users are much better served by the second approach. Let's
>> face it, Isabelle IDE is years ahead of Coq on terms of features, the
>> coupling approach was a key point.
>
> Is it?

Do you mean the IDE or the coupling approach?

In the first case, my opinion (and the one of quite a few of my
colleagues) is yes, clearly ahead.

It doesn't mean it is perfect tho.

For the second, I think the importance of the coupling was said by
Makarius itself.

>> I won't commit to an unachievable / unrealistic policy, what is the
>> problem in coordinating? It seems to me that we have huge problems
>> coordinating among ourselves, for example many of VSCoq pains could have
>> been avoided with a bit of discussion with the Coq devs.
>
> One significant issue is that because Coq scripts sometimes break,
> library developers often need to test with multiple versions of Coq.
> If each of them requires a different Emacs package, things get hard.

One thing is to have a reasonable time-frame of support, which of course
should be at minimum 2 protocol versions; and in fact, we should only
break the protocol in case of a major problem, or even provide version
negotiation.

Another is to require "at least 10 years" of immutability.

Cheers,
E.
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