Of course not two minutes later I try the contact page and it's working. (They could still ad mailto tags)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:46 AM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: RE: [PEDA] SV: Hard Look at other Programms > > > Yes the site is pretty unprofessional. It's a bad first impression. > > The contacts link is invalid: http://www.pulsonix.com/contacts.htm > The ordering page has an email addr, but they couldn't even > bother to include a mailto tag to make it easy to contact > them. http://www.pulsonix.com/ordering.htm > > How much is it? Who knows... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Craig Elison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:14 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] SV: Hard Look at other Programms > > > > > > You say these people are very serious about their product. > > I'm not sure. I found their web site the 20th of February. > > They were offering a free schematic capture. I downloaded it > > and sent in an email to get the key. I never got it back. > > Even after several emails. Your comments interested me. I'm > > ready to dump Protel 99SE and I will not got to DXP. So I > > hit their site this morning after I saw your reply. > > > > First thing is see is they ended the free schematic in March. > > Still waiting for the key requested in Feb! Price is a big > > factor for me so the next thing I looked for was their > > pricing. I went to the sales link. No pricing I could find. > > I went to "More Information". Using their site index for > > "Prices", "Trade-in Prices" and "Upgrade Prices" got "Page > > Not Found" errors. I'll keep an eye on them, but I'm not > > going to even try their demo if I don't know the pricing > > before hand. I could fall in love with it and then find I > > can't afford it. I also would have wasted my time evaluating > > the demo. I also didn't find any info on tech support. Do > > they have phone support? They are in the UK, but I see they > > have a rep or two in the states. > > > > > > A unhappy Protel user > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peder K. Hellegaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:20 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] SV: Hard Look at other Programms > > > > > > > > Do yourself a favour: > > > > Take a look at the relative new tool called PULSONIX > > (www.pulsonix.com) > > > > Those guys are very serious and the package is low priced but > > with very good functionality and not to forget: Very stable. > > > > In addition, if a user finds a bug (it is software though) > > and reports it, it is usually fixed within a few hours (and > > this is the fact) and the user receives the updated files. > > This is the customer care you always has been looking for. > > > > The Pulsonix EDA tool imports design files AND library files > > from a lot of other EDA tools, and this also works perfectly. > > > > > > > > >From a former Protel VAR > > > > > > > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > Fra: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sendt: 4. september 2002 14:48 > > Til: Protel EDA Forum > > Emne: [PEDA] Hard Look at other Programms > > > > > > Dennis and Waldemar wrote > > > > >here is one more guy who want to know what you will find > out looking > > >for > > other EDA Software. > > The Programs I found where either very expensive (unpayable > for me) < > > > > > > Here is what I have found so far: > > > > Orcad PCB: users satisfied with Orcad until Cadence > > purchased Orcad . OrCad PCB may have licensed routing code > > and "other" code from Protel and vice versa, The interfaces > > are very similar. Also similar in functionality and price, > > and features. Protel 99SE has an edge with more layers, > > generally more capability. Both are in the same price range. > > Both are good capable programs. Cadence has not done much > > to improve ORCAD layout since > > purchasing it. Don't look for good support from Orcad > > unless you plan to > > drop Orcad layout and upgrade to Cadence tools. Orcad also > > shares the same > > buggy autorouter, but the Orcad users I talked to don't know > > the difference. Maybe Orcad debugged their router. If you > > want to make OrCad work properly, you need Spectra. > > > > > > PADS/INOVEDA/now MENTOR: Lets face it this is DOS code > > dressed up to look > > like a windows program the same approach that Acad did with > > their programs. It is fairly stable. Commands are awkward, > > looks like it was designed by Unix programmers. While > > awkward and limited, it is still a good program. > > I have seen droves, herds, packs, groups, and all of PADS > > users switch to > > Cadence in the past year. Maybe they made a mistake and > should have > > switched to MENTOR. To get a real working setup of "PADs" > > be ready to > > spend some money. I doubt if you can seriously do any PCB > > work (equal to > > 99SE) for under 30K. Their new router is fair, lets > > face it Spectra > > is still king of the hill. I don't know what MENTOR was > > thinking buying > > this Product from Inoveda. They were going out of business > > anyway, so why > > pay for any money for them. (Sounds like the Accel deal) > > PADS offers > > less features at a higher price than MENTORs EXPEDITON did, > > I'm not sure how Mentor plans to sell a program with less > > features at a higher price. ( did I repeat myself, sounds > > like the Accel deal again) > > > > > > MENTOR EXPEDITION: Guys and Gals This is the real McCoy of > > Software. > > This is the program everybody but me should be using, This is > > the yardstick > > that all tools should be measured to. So why cant I use it > > ? Be cause > > I cant import a netlist into it. That is a major hurdle for > > design bureaus, since we get netlist different sch packages . > > If your design is in house, > > both schematics and pcb. There is no better tool. OK you > > say you cant > > afford it? 36K with all the bells and whistles. Don't look > > at how much the tool cost but how much you will save when > > things are working the way they > > should. This tool will actually save you money This is VERIBEST > > software, which I saw several years ago, it was good then > > and it is better > > now. I have not seen anything better , period. > > > > > > INTERCEPT: I just spent a few minutes on the phone > > yesterday with the rep. > > BUZZZZZZZZZZ drop them to the gator trap! They use Spectra > > for routing. > > OK Spectra is good. If you couple Spectra with Protel, you > > can probably > > do a board as good as any piece of software out there except > > the MENTOR stuff. > > > > Cadence: See INTERCEPTcomments with Spectra. Same old > > trick another day > > with Spectra. Lets face it if Cadence didn't purchase this > > software they would have folded years ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > > ********** > > * Tracking #: 0ABD3E4F9E846144B1FEDB6FB5C7FD604A086EB2 > > * > > ************************************************************** > > ********** > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
