* * * This post is in answer to a post originally posted to the DXP Tech Forum, but answered here for obvious reasons * * *
Andrew, Whoa there ! ! ! Wait Just a Darn Minute There ! ! ! (He said trying to keep it clean ! ! !) Don't go giving anyone any ideas here ! ! ! It has only been a year since DXP was Officially Announced (one year ago tomorrow, see below). While DXP is offically only at SP2, it is actually currently in its eighth acknowledged (known) incarnation: 1) DXP Original Beta Prior to Release (Limited Controlled Release) . 2) DXP Original Official Release. 3) DXP SP1 Pre-Release (Limited Controlled Release). 4) DXP SP1 Official Release. 5) DXP SP2 Pre-Release (Limited Controlled Release). 6) DXP SP2 Official Release - Current Official Release. 7) DXP SP3 Pre-Release (Limited Controlled Release). 8) DXP SP3 1/2 (SP3.5) Pre-Release (SP3 Build 104) - Current Pre-Release (Limited Controlled Release). (N O T E : Based on current calculations using the current "Build Number" of SP3.5 and compensating for the "Phase of the Day" and the "Time of the Moon", there can be 17 more "Builds" of SP3 before it actually becomes necessary to either actually release the official version of SP3, or go directly into SP4 Pre-Release (this calculation additionally compensates for the fact that it is now the middle of Winter in the land of Oz)). While it is very apparent that they (Altium) have indeed employed a lot of "Programming Talent [sic]" in getting DXP to where it currently stands at this point in time (Officially only SP2), it is equally apparent by examining the posts in this [DXP] forum, that not even they themselves consider that DXP is out of the actual "Beta" stage and into a "Final Functional Product Release Form Factor" yet. Look, many of us that have actually already paid for DXP are still waiting to get the signal that it has actually really and truly been transformed into a stable working product that we can use, and here you come along and try and give them ideas like the "price . . . increas[ing] dramatically". Careful now, or they may get the idea that they can start charging for Service Packs, or worse yet, changing the name of DXP to yet again something else once they finally get it really working, so that they can charge all of us massive "upgrade fees" for the "new product". I think that the operative thing to do right now is to let it be known that we are all still expectantly waiting for the actual delivery of a functional DXP Product. While DXP is 1 year old tomorrow from the announcement perspective, we are all really still waiting for it to be delivered. With respect to answering the original post by Thomas (below), which you were answering: Yes we still need and want SP7 for Protel 99 SE. JaMi ************************************************** *** BELOW COPIED FROM MY OWN PEDA ARCHIVE *** ARCHIVE ORIGINALLY POSTED JULY 21, 2002 ************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: [PEDA] Well, here it comes..... ****************************************** *** BEGIN INSERT ************************ ****************************************** Release to the Australian Stock Exchange earlier: ------------------------------------------------------------ SYDNEY, Australia -July 22, 2002 - Altium Limited (ASX: ALU), a leading developer of Windows-based electronic design and development software, is pleased to announce there release of Protel DXP - the latest version of its Protel board-level design system. After the completion of a productive external beta release, Protel DXP was sent to manufacture last Friday. The official product launch and marketing activity is scheduled to begin early next week. Protel DXP represents a major upgrade to the Protel product line and brings a host of generational improvements delivering innovative features and technologies. It marks the beginning of a number of significant product releases from Altium scheduled for 2002103. With this next generation of the highly-successful Protel product line, Altium continues to breakdown barriers to innovation and technological advancement by providing every engineer, designer and developer with easy access to the best possible design tools. ------------------------------------------------------------ ****************************************** *** END INSERT ************************* ****************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: dxp To: "DXP Technical Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [dxp] Bugs situation - why upgrade to DXP? > Thomas, > > You have to expect the price of DXP to increase dramatically as Altium have > clearly employed many programmers over many months putting bugs INTO the > software ;-) Sorry, that does not help you with your decision. It is my > personal opionion that 99SE SP6 is far better and more stable than DXP. > There are many nice features in DXP (but NOT the autorouter) but I feel is > is too unstable to warrant upgrading at the moment. I would suggest you keep > an eye on this forum as you get a true indication of the problems with DXP > from the horses mouth.....the people actually trying to use it ! > > Good luck with your decision > > Andy Fraser > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hello! > > > > Our company have used Protel since the 3.x versions, or maybe 2.x also, I > > don't remember.. But up to 99SE this software has been quite full of bugs > > and issues. 99SE SP6 was getting closer but it's still full of bugs and we > > experience lots of instabilites. That's also our current version. I've been > > sending in bug lists a few times but not getting much response. > > > > Due to this and future evalutation of what to do with upgrades to DXP I > > wonder how happy are you current DXP users with this latest release > > including current service packs? The price of DXP have increased > > dramatically and I fear we really don't get what we think we pay for. > > > > It's mostly schematic, simulation and pcb that is of interest, in that > > order. > > > > Comments? > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
