Specially makes difficult for adoption in financial applications, the has_field 
was one of the key reasons to migrate over to protofuf.

Financial applications need differentiation in-between 0 value set and not set. 
Eg: Limit order with 0 price is valid but with no price set is invalid. 
Likewise market order with no price set is valid and with any other price set 
is invalid (including the 0 value). And there are many other cases, but anyway 
if the decision is made then not much value discussing it.

Regards,
Sumit Kumar

> On 17 Jan 2015, at 10:52 am, V.B. <vidalborro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I suppose what I'm really wondering is:
> a) How does it simplify the language implementations exactly?
> b) Why was that not the case for non-primitives, which still have presence 
> logic?
> 
> 
>> On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 6:39:56 PM UTC-5, Feng Xiao wrote:
>> The reason for dropping field presence is more of the same with dropping 
>> default values. Basically we want to simplify protobuf and make it easier to 
>> implement efficiently in more languages. We are preparing the proto3 
>> documentation and will share more information about the trade-offs we have 
>> made.
>>> On Fri Jan 16 2015 at 12:17:25 PM V.B. <vidalb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Can I ask for more details about why presence logic was removed (e.g. 
>>> hasFoo() ) for primitives? This has been a very useful feature for us.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>       1. Removal of field presence logic for primitive value fields, 
>>>> removal
>>>>          of required fields, and removal of default values. This makes 
>>>> proto3
>>>>          significantly easier to implement with open struct 
>>>> representations,
>>>>          as in languages like Android Java, Objective C, or Go.
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