Thanks Jon, for pointing out what should have been clear was an unportable
approach. <facepalm>
I will try the fine-grained protos approach demonstrated by Jorge.
Thanks
On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:48:20 AM UTC-5, Jon Skeet wrote:
>
> This is the step that makes everything completely unportable:
>
> Call ObjectToByteArray extension method, which uses the .Net
>> BinaryFormatter class (and MemoryStream) to convert the object to a byte
>> array (byte[] in .Net)
>
>
> That's like using ObjectOutputStream in Java. I would definitely *not* expect
> to be able to deserialize that data usefully in Objective C.
>
> It sounds like instead of a bytes field, you should probably use an Any
> field... or some other message type with a oneof { int32, int64, double,
> string} or whatever you need. Fundamentally, you'll need to stick to protos
> everywhere though.
>
> (As an aside, if you have any usability feedback on the C# protobuf
> experience, now is the time to tell me so I can try to smooth out any
> points of friction before release!)
>
> Jon
>
>
> On 12 November 2015 at 03:18, Thomas Van Lenten <thom...@google.com
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I can't say I know C# to comment much on that side of things. It does
>> sorta look like you are using something more native to those objects for
>> serializing into a blob, and simply using a proto to try and package the
>> row & col counts along with the blob. It probably would make more sense to
>> do something like Jorge suggests and use protos for the full packaging
>> rather than just the outer packaging.
>>
>> TVL
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Rob Cecil <rob....@gmail.com
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 8:41:36 PM UTC-5, Rob Cecil wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interesting solution. I will definitely try that approach as I'm
>>>> getting no where to continue with my current tack. I'm not sure how
>>>> familiar your are with the .Net side of things, but this how it is working
>>>> for me so far. I have a server implementation (currently just brutally
>>>> simple - using console projects) and a WPF test client that currently
>>>> works
>>>> with my defined *RangeData* protobuf, including the bytes field.
>>>>
>>>> On the server side this what I do (narrating the
>>>> CommonTypeExtensions.ToRangeData method in the debugger screenshot -
>>>> attached)
>>>>
>>>> public static RangeData ToRangeData(this object[] source)
>>>> {
>>>> var result = new RangeData();
>>>> result.Rows = (int)source[0];
>>>> result.Columns = (int)source[1];
>>>> var formatted = ObjectToByteArray(source[2]);
>>>> result.Data = ByteString.CopyFrom(formatted);
>>>> return result;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Get an object "blob", just an untyped object array (from db source,
>>>> see attached image of VS debugger watch window showing "source" that is
>>>> visible when the debugger stops in the ToRangeData() extension method).
>>>> - Call ObjectToByteArray extension method, which uses the .Net
>>>> BinaryFormatter class (and MemoryStream) to convert the object to a
>>>> byte array (byte[] in .Net)
>>>> - Call Protobuf's ByteString.CopyFrom() factory method to generate the
>>>> ByteString data and stuff that into the *RangeData* object.
>>>>
>>>> On the reverse side, in the WPF client (not completely shown in
>>>> screenshots):
>>>>
>>>> var ba = rangeData.Data.ToByteArray();
>>>> var array = (Array)ba.FromByteArrayToObject();
>>>> ViewData = new ViewData((object[,])array);
>>>>
>>>> - Get the *RangeData* instance from Protobufs, including ByteString
>>>> instance in the data field.
>>>> - Call rangeData.Data.ToByteArray() to convert ByteString to byte[]
>>>> array. ToByteArray() is Protobufs provided method.
>>>> - Call FromByteArrayToObject (in the CommonTypeExtensions.cs class,
>>>> partially shown in screenshot), which uses the BinaryFormatter (and
>>>> MemoryStream) in .Net to convert the byte[] array into a CLR "Object"
>>>> - Cast Object to Array, then cast to object[,] two-dimensional array
>>>> ("ViewData", which makes the data more consumable to a WPF DataGrid).
>>>>
>>>> That is how it is working in .Net/C#.
>>>>
>>>> With the Objective-C side of things, I have a NSData, instead of the
>>>> ByteString. I know the #rows and #columns. I just don't know the
>>>> techniques to do the analogous thing in objective-c (or Swift).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 7:42:21 PM UTC-5, Jorge Luis
>>>> Canizales Diaz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [CC: Jon for the C# side and TVL for the ObjC side]
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rob!
>>>>>
>>>>> when you say:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I am currently taking a object array in C# and packing that into
>>>>> the ByteString.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you accomplishing that? I see from your example that the
>>>>> elements of your array aren't proto messages, so maybe .Net has its own
>>>>> serialization format that non-.Net languages aren't aware of? In that
>>>>> case,
>>>>> the only real solution I can think of would be to formalize that
>>>>> serialization by using protos. For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> message RangeData {
>>>>> int32 num_rows = 1;
>>>>> int32 num_columns = 2;
>>>>> repeated Row row = 3;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> message Row {
>>>>> repeated Value value = 1;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> message Value {
>>>>> oneof value {
>>>>> string text = 1;
>>>>> double number = 2;
>>>>> }
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> or, alternatively, if you're not going to mix the strings and the
>>>>> numbers:
>>>>>
>>>>> message RangeData {
>>>>> repeated string row_name = 1;
>>>>> repeated string column_name = 2;
>>>>> repeated Row row = 3;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> message Row {
>>>>> repeated double value = 1;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:53:11 AM UTC-8, Rob Cecil wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using the objective-c version Protobufs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a .proto defined as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> message RangeData {
>>>>>> int32 rows = 1;
>>>>>> int32 columns = 2;
>>>>>> bytes data = 3;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The server-side has been developed in C#/.Net. I'm able to
>>>>>> successfully send/receive and unpack the data from the 'data' field 3
>>>>>> above. In the c# port, 'bytes' are represented by a Google protobufs
>>>>>> "ByteString" object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In objective-c, they're represented as NSData instance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am currently taking a object array in C# and packing that into the
>>>>>> ByteString. I have a separate .Net WPF client that successfully
>>>>>> retrieves
>>>>>> the data from the ByteString instance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The object array is essentially a two-dimensional (object[,]) array
>>>>>> instance whose elements can be numeric, or strings of varying length.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[0, 0] = ""
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[0, 1] = "Jan 2010"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[0, 2] = "Feb 2010"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[0, 13] = "- Year 2010"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[1, 0] = 89544.994
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[1, 1] = 93202.257
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[1, 13] = 492331.908
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[2, 0] = "Report A"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ary[16, 13] = ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The number of rows and columns for this two dimensional array are
>>>>>> passed in an outer (Message) context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the technique for dealing with the NSData and extracting &
>>>>>> parsing back into an objective-c (or Swift) arrays?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there helper classes I should be aware of to help in these
>>>>>> scenarios?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
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