thats why i minify on the fly !!!!, then its just one change in a .htaccess 
file to change a path and i can have packed or unpacked scripts !
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Quadling" <rquadl...@googlemail.com>
To: <prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:52 PM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Shrinking JS


>
> 2009/3/20 Alex Mcauley <webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com>:
>>
>> ahh !! .. mine has mod_defalte and zlib compression all on the server 
>> anyway
>> so i didnt need to !! ...
>>
>> I did notice that his method doesnt minify the files ...
>>
>> Each to their own
>>
>> Alex
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Quadling" <rquadl...@googlemail.com>
>> To: <prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:30 PM
>> Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Shrinking JS
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2009/3/20 Alex Mcauley <webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks but i wasnt looking to do it, i just had an idea !!
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Alex
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Richard Quadling" <rquadl...@googlemail.com>
>>>> To: <prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:46 AM
>>>> Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Shrinking JS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/3/20 Richard Quadling <rquadl...@googlemail.com>:
>>>>> 2009/3/20 Jeztah <webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After a little playing ove the last couple of days i came up with a
>>>>>> nice easy way of shrinking many js files on the fly into 1 file ...
>>>>>> this will speed up load time heavily on heavy javascript loaded
>>>>>> sites ..... the code is php and is very simple .. it also uses
>>>>>> http://www.crockford.com/javascript/jsmin.html to achieve its goal 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now i must say in my tests sites with 3 or less large javascript
>>>>>> includes this wil not speed up much - infact it wil be slower ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My tests are as follows ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Latest Prototype.js
>>>>>> Latest Scriptaculous.js
>>>>>> Latest Effects.js
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [phpcode]
>>>>>> require($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/resources/includes/server/
>>>>>> jsmin.php'); // jsmin
>>>>>> $docroot=$_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'];
>>>>>> // array values need changing to reflect your include path(s)
>>>>>> $jsArray=array( "p"=>"$docroot/resources/includes/client/proto.js",
>>>>>> "f"=>"$docroot/resources/includes/client/functions.js",
>>>>>> "s"=>"$docroot/resources/includes/client/scriptaculous.js",
>>>>>> "e"=>"$docroot/resources/includes/client/effects.js"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> );
>>>>>> $required_js=explode(",",$_GET['load']);
>>>>>> foreach($required_js as $reqkey=>$reqvalue) {
>>>>>> echo JSMin::minify(file_get_contents($jsArray[$reqvalue]));
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> [/phpcode]
>>>>>> Usage:
>>>>>> URI -> js_load_min.php?load=p,s,e,f
>>>>>>
>>>>>> will go through the array and find the relevant files, then echo them
>>>>>> out into one big file (minified on the fly) - this gets round the "2
>>>>>> requests per domain Async" loading issues some people have with
>>>>>> multiple CDNS and lots of remote images/includes - it can easily be
>>>>>> ported to get the files remotely and some caching of some sort would
>>>>>> easily be added ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On my test i loaded 5 javascript files from the same server as the
>>>>>> page on thier own and page load was 4 seconds ... after using the
>>>>>> above code i got the load time down to averageing 1.5 seconds per
>>>>>> refresh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then testing with only 3 files (prototype,scriptac,effects) the 
>>>>>> normal
>>>>>> load method was around 1.8 seconds on 1st load, then dropped to 0.8
>>>>>> (AVG) per refresh .. while the method above was 1.5 seconds on every
>>>>>> load and refresh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone may find this usefull / interesting and perhaps likes the
>>>>>> concept and may want to do something with it, i dont have time at the
>>>>>> moment !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://rakaz.nl/item/make_your_pages_load_faster_by_combining_and_compressing_javascript_and_css_files
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Richard Quadling
>>>>> Zend Certified Engineer :
>>>>> http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
>>>>> "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had to do some minor mods for IE6 to this. But it works REALLY well.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -----
>>>> Richard Quadling
>>>> Zend Certified Engineer :
>>>> http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
>>>> "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>> No problem. Just saving you becoming a wheel maker.
>>>
>>> The one I linked to uses gzip to compress the files and then caches
>>> them on the server. That way, whenever a change is made, everyone gets
>>> a new pre-cached compressed file. No need to re-compress it. This
>>> means the actual transfer goes from many hits to none, once cached.
>>>
>>> It works really well on our intranet (IE6, IE7, FF, Chrome, Safari,
>>> Opera - Windows, Linux desktop and Macs).
>>>
>>> Richard.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----
>>> Richard Quadling
>>> Zend Certified Engineer : 
>>> http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
>>> "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> That was easy to add in. The main reason I chose not to in the end was
> that the caching deals with it all anyway. Having the server handle
> the compression is a good thing too. If you are not in control of the
> server, then having to do it yourself and dealing with the crap IE6
> says is an area where you can have some fun.
>
> As for minification, how does that impact on JS debugging?
>
>
> -- 
> -----
> Richard Quadling
> Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
> "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
>
> >
> 


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