If you would like to translate the manual to Greek, you are welcome to do so, but it is a big job.
Short of that, it would be very helpful if you spot something in the manual that is not as helpful as it could be, and suggest improvements. I know that, for example, most of the commands in the manual do not include examples. If you wanted to contribute examples, I think that users could find that helpful. On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 1:02 AM Elias Tsolis <estatistic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I can translate it in greek if you want. > Aldo i purpose to adf some examples for syntax. > Pkease tell me what to do. > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2022, <pspp-dev-requ...@gnu.org> wrote: >> >> Send pspp-dev mailing list submissions to >> pspp-dev@gnu.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-dev >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> pspp-dev-requ...@gnu.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> pspp-dev-ow...@gnu.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of pspp-dev digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) >> 2. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington) >> 3. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) >> 4. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Alan Mead) >> 5. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) >> 6. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Friedrich Beckmann) >> 7. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:20:50 -0700 >> From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> >> To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> >> Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, PSPP Development >> Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> >> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! >> Message-ID: >> <caa_g9+h5bpg70rk_5ct9vmlejtrjdcrjqs13fws0fssu-9g...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> We've had documentation in French and Polish contributed by users >> before. We linked to it from the FAQ. It seems that those links are >> dead now, though. >> >> It would be great to get documentation contributions that we can >> include in the PSPP manual. >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:46 AM Friedrich Beckmann >> <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> wrote: >> > >> > Hi John, >> > >> > i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for the >> > documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list >> > >> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html >> > >> > how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a >> > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she could >> > make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code which >> > would require to have a build system running to see the rendered pages. >> > Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. >> > >> > Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted tutorial >> > or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we would >> > publish it on the gnu website? >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Fritz >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 19:23:57 +0100 >> From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> >> To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> >> Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, PSPP Development >> Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> >> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! >> Message-ID: <YjoUPU8v7I56GDJ0@jocasta.intra> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. You >> would >> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or >> opendocument >> format. >> >> J' >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: >> Hi John, >> >> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for the >> documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html >> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> >> >> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a >> description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she could >> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code >> which would require to have a build system running to see the rendered >> pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. >> >> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted >> tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we >> would publish it on the gnu website? >> >> Cheers >> >> Fritz >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:29:29 -0700 >> From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> >> To: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> >> Cc: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>, PSPP Development >> Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> >> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! >> Message-ID: >> <CAA_G9+hL=QTvRCqe=wngx5osuo9+fxgdhwmszs0y1ap2tls...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a >> practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington >> <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: >> > >> > So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. You >> > would >> > first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or >> > opendocument >> > format. >> > >> > J' >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: >> > Hi John, >> > >> > i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for the >> > documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list >> > >> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html >> > <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> >> > >> > how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a >> > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she could >> > make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code >> > which would require to have a build system running to see the rendered >> > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. >> > >> > Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted >> > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we >> > would publish it on the gnu website? >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Fritz >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:40:57 -0500 >> From: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> >> To: pspp-dev@gnu.org >> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! >> Message-ID: <e3ca7111-8079-36b1-66b2-462308d5b...@alanmead.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of >> Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML >> and similar data) than the older XLS format. >> >> Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save >> it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS example): >> >> "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv >> "excel_file.xls" >> >> produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format. >> >> -Alan >> >> On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote: >> > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a >> > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington >> > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: >> >> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. >> >> You would >> >> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or >> >> opendocument >> >> format. >> >> >> >> J' >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> >> >> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for >> >> the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list >> >> >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html >> >> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> >> >> >> >> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a >> >> description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she could >> >> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi >> >> code which would require to have a build system running to see the >> >> rendered pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. >> >> >> >> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted >> >> tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we >> >> would publish it on the gnu website? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Fritz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:47:15 -0700 >> From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> >> To: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> >> Cc: PSPP Development Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> >> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! >> Message-ID: >> <CAA_G9+hvyXcOAazgY6qr7RV+-Zv01bfwW9qJP=jo2vryeae...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> I followed the saga of standardizing the XLSX format in some detail >> when it was going on 10 or so years ago. At least at the time, it was >> said that it would take a lot of work for a program to read it, >> because (for example) a program that read it would need to be able to >> implement recalculation, including all the formulas and functions, >> since the files didn't necessarily include the pre calculated values. >> This suggests to me that, if PSPP were to be able to read these files >> directly, then we would need to use a third-party library or program >> to do it with a reasonable amount of code. >> >> Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the >> manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:41 AM Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> wrote: >> > >> > You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of >> > Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML >> > and similar data) than the older XLS format. >> > >> > Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save >> > it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS example): >> > >> > "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv >> > "excel_file.xls" >> > >> > produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format. >> > >> > -Alan >> > >> > On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote: >> > > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a >> > > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. >> > > >> > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington >> > > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: >> > >> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. >> > >> You would >> > >> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or >> > >> opendocument >> > >> format. >> > >> >> > >> J' >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: >> > >> Hi John, >> > >> >> > >> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for >> > >> the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html >> > >> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> >> > >> >> > >> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have >> > >> a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she >> > >> could >> > >> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi >> > >> code which would require to have a build system running to see the >> > >> rendered pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. >> > >> >> > >> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted >> > >> tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and >> > >> we would publish it on the gnu website? >> > >> >> > >> Cheers >> > >> >> > >> Fritz >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:25:52 +0100 >> From: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> >> To: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> >> Cc: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org>, PSPP Development Mailing List >> <pspp-dev@gnu.org> >> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! >> Message-ID: <bc4fa759-8bcb-4ee2-b825-c5f4ba595...@gmx.de> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv and to import >> from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was more wondering how to >> engage people who probably are not in the position to install the build >> environment to render the documentation. >> >> Friedrich >> >> > Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>: >> > >> > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the >> > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. >> > >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 10:29:39 +0100 >> From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> >> To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> >> Cc: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>, PSPP Development Mailing List >> <pspp-dev@gnu.org> >> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! >> Message-ID: <YjrogwohhDQ3vxla@jocasta.intra> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> The documentation including screenshots are included in the manual. >> If I recall correctly this includes the Windoze builds last time I >> checked. >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:25:52AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: >> >> I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv and to >> import from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was more wondering >> how to engage people who probably are not in the position to install the >> build environment to render the documentation. >> >> Friedrich >> >> > Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>: >> > >> > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the >> > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pspp-dev mailing list >> pspp-dev@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-dev >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of pspp-dev Digest, Vol 209, Issue 4 >> ****************************************
