The "doc" directory is available through the Savannah webpage at https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/pspp.git/tree/doc.
I don't know what "I found this web address?" means. On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:23 AM Elias Tsolis <estatistic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I cannot find the doc directory. > > Can you direct me to that? > > i found this web address? > > sincerely, > > Elias > > > On 24/3/22 6:38 pm, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > PSPP does not have a Discord, but there is, or was, an IRC channel. > > John, is it still active? It was on freenode, but most free software > > projects have migrated away from freenode. > > > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 9:31 AM Elias Tsolis <estatistic...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Is there discord channel? > >> > >> Many software devs using it for faster communication! > >> > >> sincerely, > >> > >> Elias > >> > >> On 24/3/22 5:18 pm, Ben Pfaff wrote: > >>> If you would like to translate the manual to Greek, you are welcome to > >>> do so, but it is a big job. > >>> > >>> Short of that, it would be very helpful if you spot something in the > >>> manual that is not as helpful as it could be, and suggest > >>> improvements. I know that, for example, most of the commands in the > >>> manual do not include examples. If you wanted to contribute examples, > >>> I think that users could find that helpful. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 1:02 AM Elias Tsolis <estatistic...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> I can translate it in greek if you want. > >>>> Aldo i purpose to adf some examples for syntax. > >>>> Pkease tell me what to do. > >>>> > >>>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2022, <pspp-dev-requ...@gnu.org> wrote: > >>>>> Send pspp-dev mailing list submissions to > >>>>> pspp-dev@gnu.org > >>>>> > >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-dev > >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>>>> pspp-dev-requ...@gnu.org > >>>>> > >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>>>> pspp-dev-ow...@gnu.org > >>>>> > >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>>>> than "Re: Contents of pspp-dev digest..." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Today's Topics: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) > >>>>> 2. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington) > >>>>> 3. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) > >>>>> 4. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Alan Mead) > >>>>> 5. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) > >>>>> 6. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Friedrich Beckmann) > >>>>> 7. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 1 > >>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:20:50 -0700 > >>>>> From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > >>>>> To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > >>>>> Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, PSPP Development > >>>>> Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > >>>>> Message-ID: > >>>>> > >>>>> <caa_g9+h5bpg70rk_5ct9vmlejtrjdcrjqs13fws0fssu-9g...@mail.gmail.com> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >>>>> > >>>>> We've had documentation in French and Polish contributed by users > >>>>> before. We linked to it from the FAQ. It seems that those links are > >>>>> dead now, though. > >>>>> > >>>>> It would be great to get documentation contributions that we can > >>>>> include in the PSPP manual. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:46 AM Friedrich Beckmann > >>>>> <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi John, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for the > >>>>>> documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a > >>>>>> description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she > >>>>>> could > >>>>>> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code > >>>>>> which would require to have a build system running to see the rendered > >>>>>> pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted > >>>>>> tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and > >>>>>> we would publish it on the gnu website? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fritz > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 2 > >>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 19:23:57 +0100 > >>>>> From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> > >>>>> To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > >>>>> Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, PSPP Development > >>>>> Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > >>>>> Message-ID: <YjoUPU8v7I56GDJ0@jocasta.intra> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >>>>> > >>>>> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. > >>>>> You would > >>>>> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or > >>>>> opendocument > >>>>> format. > >>>>> > >>>>> J' > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > >>>>> Hi John, > >>>>> > >>>>> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take > >>>>> for the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing > >>>>> list > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html > >>>>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> > >>>>> > >>>>> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have > >>>>> a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she > >>>>> could > >>>>> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi > >>>>> code which would require to have a build system running to see the > >>>>> rendered pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > >>>>> > >>>>> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted > >>>>> tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and > >>>>> we would publish it on the gnu website? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> > >>>>> Fritz > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 3 > >>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:29:29 -0700 > >>>>> From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > >>>>> To: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> > >>>>> Cc: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>, PSPP Development > >>>>> Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > >>>>> Message-ID: > >>>>> > >>>>> <CAA_G9+hL=QTvRCqe=wngx5osuo9+fxgdhwmszs0y1ap2tls...@mail.gmail.com> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >>>>> > >>>>> It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a > >>>>> practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington > >>>>> <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: > >>>>>> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. > >>>>>> You would > >>>>>> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric > >>>>>> or opendocument > >>>>>> format. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> J' > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > >>>>>> Hi John, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take > >>>>>> for the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing > >>>>>> list > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html > >>>>>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to > >>>>>> have a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her > >>>>>> that she could > >>>>>> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi > >>>>>> code which would require to have a build system running to see the > >>>>>> rendered pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of > >>>>>> handcrafted tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC > >>>>>> license and we would publish it on the gnu website? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fritz > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 4 > >>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:40:57 -0500 > >>>>> From: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> > >>>>> To: pspp-dev@gnu.org > >>>>> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > >>>>> Message-ID: <e3ca7111-8079-36b1-66b2-462308d5b...@alanmead.org> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >>>>> > >>>>> You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of > >>>>> Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML > >>>>> and similar data) than the older XLS format. > >>>>> > >>>>> Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save > >>>>> it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS > >>>>> example): > >>>>> > >>>>> "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv > >>>>> "excel_file.xls" > >>>>> > >>>>> produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Alan > >>>>> > >>>>> On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote: > >>>>>> It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a > >>>>>> practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington > >>>>>> <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: > >>>>>>> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. > >>>>>>> You would > >>>>>>> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric > >>>>>>> or opendocument > >>>>>>> format. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> J' > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi John, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take > >>>>>>> for the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing > >>>>>>> list > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html > >>>>>>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to > >>>>>>> have a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her > >>>>>>> that she could > >>>>>>> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the > >>>>>>> texi code which would require to have a build system running to see > >>>>>>> the rendered pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of > >>>>>>> handcrafted tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some > >>>>>>> CC license and we would publish it on the gnu website? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Fritz > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 5 > >>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:47:15 -0700 > >>>>> From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > >>>>> To: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> > >>>>> Cc: PSPP Development Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > >>>>> Message-ID: > >>>>> > >>>>> <CAA_G9+hvyXcOAazgY6qr7RV+-Zv01bfwW9qJP=jo2vryeae...@mail.gmail.com> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >>>>> > >>>>> I followed the saga of standardizing the XLSX format in some detail > >>>>> when it was going on 10 or so years ago. At least at the time, it was > >>>>> said that it would take a lot of work for a program to read it, > >>>>> because (for example) a program that read it would need to be able to > >>>>> implement recalculation, including all the formulas and functions, > >>>>> since the files didn't necessarily include the pre calculated values. > >>>>> This suggests to me that, if PSPP were to be able to read these files > >>>>> directly, then we would need to use a third-party library or program > >>>>> to do it with a reasonable amount of code. > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the > >>>>> manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:41 AM Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> wrote: > >>>>>> You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of > >>>>>> Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML > >>>>>> and similar data) than the older XLS format. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save > >>>>>> it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS > >>>>>> example): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv > >>>>>> "excel_file.xls" > >>>>>> > >>>>>> produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Alan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote: > >>>>>>> It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a > >>>>>>> practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington > >>>>>>> <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from > >>>>>>>> excel. You would > >>>>>>>> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric > >>>>>>>> or opendocument > >>>>>>>> format. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> J' > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hi John, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you > >>>>>>>> take for the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the > >>>>>>>> mailing list > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html > >>>>>>>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to > >>>>>>>> have a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her > >>>>>>>> that she could > >>>>>>>> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the > >>>>>>>> texi code which would require to have a build system running to see > >>>>>>>> the rendered pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more > >>>>>>>> advanced. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of > >>>>>>>> handcrafted tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some > >>>>>>>> CC license and we would publish it on the gnu website? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Fritz > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 6 > >>>>> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:25:52 +0100 > >>>>> From: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > >>>>> To: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > >>>>> Cc: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org>, PSPP Development Mailing List > >>>>> <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > >>>>> Message-ID: <bc4fa759-8bcb-4ee2-b825-c5f4ba595...@gmx.de> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv and to > >>>>> import from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was more > >>>>> wondering how to engage people who probably are not in the position to > >>>>> install the build environment to render the documentation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Friedrich > >>>>> > >>>>>> Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the > >>>>>> manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 7 > >>>>> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 10:29:39 +0100 > >>>>> From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> > >>>>> To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > >>>>> Cc: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>, PSPP Development Mailing List > >>>>> <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > >>>>> Message-ID: <YjrogwohhDQ3vxla@jocasta.intra> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >>>>> > >>>>> The documentation including screenshots are included in the manual. > >>>>> If I recall correctly this includes the Windoze builds last time I > >>>>> checked. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> John > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:25:52AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv > >>>>> and to import from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was > >>>>> more wondering how to engage people who probably are not in the > >>>>> position to install the build environment to render the documentation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Friedrich > >>>>> > >>>>> > Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff > >>>>> <b...@cs.stanford.edu>: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or > >>>>> the > >>>>> > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Subject: Digest Footer > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> pspp-dev mailing list > >>>>> pspp-dev@gnu.org > >>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-dev > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> End of pspp-dev Digest, Vol 209, Issue 4 > >>>>> ****************************************
