Hi. If you are considering anything second-hand, I'm selling my project mix. It works fine in pt but I am having issues with the drivers in win xp pro sp3 so need to get a different interface I can use with both systems.
If you're interested, hit me up off list. Thanks, Cameron. -----Original Message----- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elexis Gillette Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:45 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Thanks for this bit of information. The MCU Pro seems to be a suitable choice for the price. My thinking is that purchasing the control surface will make some processes a bit easier as I can use the buttons and motorized fingers to adjust different parameters. I guess it's more of a "preference" as I'm sure you can perform these same actions by using the short-cut key strokes of VoiceOver. Lex On Feb 7, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > This is pretty much how it works. Control surfaces aren't popular with most low-end/home users of recording software. Blind people are a special case because a control surface has special value for them. For most sighted people, though, they're on tight budgets, so would rather buy two huge screens rather than a control surface. Many enthusiasts now use their iPad as a control surface, of a sort. If they aren't on a budget, then they don't bother with a little 8 channel surface. > > It appears that Avid is pretty much content with cashing out the M-Audio brand, and letting it be used to push bargain basement plastic toys at Guitar Center. That's my conclusion for why nearly all pro/prosumer gear from M-Audio has been canceled, and they have a fleet of $200 controllers and low-end interfaces. > > Besides any of the above, the economy is terrible now, and the recording industry is rapidly fading in to the bedroom studio. Truly pro customers are a dramatically shrinking market, while the casual users with small budgets are on the rise. Even so, music gear is not a necessity, and so many people have significantly cut back on their gear purchases. The result is that many companies are shrinking their product lines, and, in many cases, dropping their mid-range products altogether. > > Sorry to be gloom and doom, but that's how it is now. Lots of companies are really just trying to make it through the next year or two without going out of business. Control surfaces are not a hotly selling item, and so don't look to see many of them in the near future. > > The MCU is still available. I suggest it for your situation. You can expand it with XT and C4 units. I don't know when, but I worry that it won't be too long before Mackie discontinues it, also. > > Bryan > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Cameron wrote: > >> Hi. Yes, that's correct. I've seen some b stock units from various dealers >> on e bay for the project mix. Also, sweetwater still has some in stock. >> There are also a ton of FW1884 units out there, in various states of well >> being, if you want to take the second hand gear plunge. >> >> On the topic of the 003, do you know if avid have any plans to make that a >> MCU compatible surface? I know they have made the new m box drivers >> universally compatible, it'd be nice if they did that with the 003 but I >> have come across nothing discussing that at all yet. Being that they have >> done away with the project mix, and due to the fact that avid owns m audio >> now, could that be their game plan to corner the market for an all in one >> unit in that price range? I mean now there is really nothing left to fill >> that gap. >> >> I mean that new 16 channel ssl control surface/interface combo looks nice >> but it's got two mic preamps and is freaking USB. For five thousand >> dollars, I'm not exactly sure what their intended market is... Their 24 >> channel interface/control surface looks like a serious bit of kit but will >> set you back a whopping seventy nine thousand dollars. >> >> Cameron. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Bryan Smart >> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:56 AM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase >> >> The ProjectMix has been discontinued for a few months now. Since the FW1884 >> has also been discontinued for about a year, that leaves the Avid units as >> the only interface+surface combos available new. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Cameron >> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:52 AM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase >> >> Hi. The project mix under OS X with pro tools nine has had good reviews >> thus far. >> >> What country are you located in? >> >> In the states, the project mix sells new for $1249. >> >> The pace Ilok is approx fifty dollars. >> >> If you're only going to be using pro tools on mac, then I'd suggest trying >> to find a second hand Digi 003. That would be another very good option. >> >> Cameron. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Elexis Gillette >> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:18 AM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase >> >> Hello, >> >> How much is the Ilok in addition to Pro Tools 9.0? >> >> Secondly, I'm using MAC only, there will be no windows/sonar use. >> >> Third, I have read about the audio project mix previously. Would this be a >> suitable interace to perate with pro tools? I would rather spend the money >> to invest in something stable and surable. I believe that the project mix >> is a little over a grand. >> >> Lex >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Cameron wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Yeah, avid pro tools 9 is what you want. You'll need an Ilok too. >>> >>> You won't find an interface and control surface combo new for 500 >>> bucks, probably not even second hand. >>> >>> Regarding the interface, How many tracks do you need to record at once? >>> >>> What you could do would be buy a cheapo surface like the bcf2000 and >>> then buy a small firewire interface, focusrite, Mackie, motu, older >>> presonus, etc. Just make sure the interface you buy is AU compliant. >>> >>> Or, buy a more robust interface and save up some cash. Then, buy a >>> second hand Mackie control universal or universal pro. >>> >>> Or, you could try to find a second hand tascam fw1884 or m audio >>> project mix. Both of those units are a combination audio interface, >>> midi >> interface, >>> and control surface with motorized faders. There is also the Digi 003 >>> of course. It's a well built unit with decent mic preamps etc. >>> however, >> with >>> all of the three interfaces I just listed, keep in mind that if you >>> are running windos xp/vista under bootcamp on your mac, like if you >>> use sonar for some things you can't accomplish yet in pro tools, then >>> you may have issues with crappy drivers. If you are bootcamping with >>> windows seven, >> this >>> is less of an issue. >>> >>> So, if we are talking pro tools on mac only, that is one thing. If we >>> are talking about a cross platform interface for multiple DAW >>> applications, >> then >>> that alters your choices a bit. >>> >>> Lastly, I would advise you to go with a firewire interface and not a >>> USB interface. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> Cameron. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >>> Of Elexis Gillette >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:51 AM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> To ensure that I purchase the accessible version of Pro Tools for my >>> MAC, >> I >>> want to know is it called "Avid pro Tools 9.0"? I'm sure I have seen >>> the correct version, it is $599.00. I'm not interested in getting the >>> HD version. >>> >>> Also, I need advice on an interface. I'm wanting something where I >>> can possibly have some control surface functionality. Specifically, >>> something no more than $500 if possible? I'm hoping I can acquire >>> something useful >> in >>> that price range. >>> >>> Thank you for your help in this matter, and I apologize if I have >>> repeated prior questions from other users on this list regarding this >>> matter. I >> just >>> want to make sure I'm securing the necessary items for recording. >>> >>> Lex= >>> >> >
