Hey Gord,

You certainly have firsthand knowledge of what it's like. I, too, we all, are 
hoping for Logic accessibility as well. That's the subject of another post 
which I will make when I have a chance. See my lengthy post elsewhere for more 
info on the meeting itself.

Cheers,

Slau

On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Gordon Kent wrote:

> Hi Salu:
> Believe me, I understand your position fully.  I have had a similar 
> relationship with Cakewalk for around 15 years now.  Through meetings in 
> person at their office in Boston, as well as a lot of work on the beta team, 
> I feel I’ve been able to accomplish quite a bit.  Mike Mandel has also 
> attended these meetings.  I think companies like this like to deal with as 
> few folks as possible with matters like this, and you are the obvious person 
> for working with avid and pro tools.  I personally would not have a problem 
> contributing financially to your efforts.  It is much more expensive to fly 
> to LA and stay out there than it is for me to take a one day junket to 
> Boston.  And, there has been a significant period of time where Cakewalk has 
> really not been able to devote any real time to accessibility issues when  
> they decided to go in a new direction with their Sonar X products.  Even 
> companies like Reaper, who started with all good intentions, have not been 
> able to solve some issues, and the person who has written the access module 
> is Russian and very hard to get in touch with.  I sincerely was hoping that 
> Apple would come through with logic.  
>  
> Gord
>  
> From: Chris Norman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
>  
> Well, let me start out by saying that I for one am extremely greatful for 
> what you've managed to achieve so far. As I've previously stated, I don't 
> know much really, other than what me and my guitar can do, and even then, I'm 
> making it up 90% of the time! So, I am personally 100% behind you.
>  
> I suspected there was some kind of secrecy surrounding what you and Avid were 
> doing, and although personally I believe that almost all information should 
> be freely available etc, there's obviously things that you can't discuss
> 
> Take care,
> Chris Norman
> <[email protected]>
>  
> 
>  
> On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> 
>> Members of this list,
>> 
>> I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. 
>> I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long 
>> time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did 
>> become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this "position," 
>> for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal 
>> reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer 
>> and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified 
>> voice representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools 
>> platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this 
>> project. I never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest in 
>> the outcome but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden to 
>> anybody in any way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that 
>> often passed with no visible results but I knew it was time well spent 
>> because of the quality of the relationships I've built and the results we've 
>> gotten so far.
>> 
>> I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure you 
>> that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to 
>> discuss certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new 
>> appreciation for executive privilege and classified information. That said, 
>> I've been as open as I could possibly be with both the list and the periodic 
>> updates on the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for how one 
>> cannot satisfy the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that old 
>> saying about walking a mile in someone's shoes.
>> 
>> Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen 
>> into this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to 
>> it, at least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also felt 
>> that I was the right person for the job.
>> 
>> Every so often, it seems, I find the need to defend myself against what I 
>> essentially find to be restlessness on the part of some people. I don't take 
>> it personally because I understand that it comes from a frustration with the 
>> status quo or, more accurately, a perceived lack of progress. I, too, feel 
>> frustrated some of the time and I share many of the concerns of others on 
>> this list. I agree with many ideas and I categorically disagree with other 
>> ideas or at least their implementation and timing. I realize that, when I 
>> happen to disagree with an approach, I probably lose the confidence of those 
>> who see things differently. That's OK. As I said earlier, I accept the fact 
>> that I can't satisfy everybody's wishes—it's impossible. What I do feel that 
>> I have is the support of the majority of our community and I do appreciate 
>> that.
>> 
>> As I stated earlier, I feel like a politician and I don't particularly enjoy 
>> it. My commitment to the issue of Pro Tools accessibility and to this 
>> community are as follows:
>> 
>> I will continue my relationship with several key individuals at Avid in the 
>> interest of ensuring a future for Pro Tools accessibility. There are a 
>> couple of things we're waiting for at the moment that will determine how I 
>> feel we should proceed. Pending that initial outcome, I will make a personal 
>> decision whether to continue the work I've been doing. Even if the outcome 
>> is favorable, I'm not sure that I'll take on any responsibility other than 
>> beta testing, as I've done on and off over the years. If the outcome is less 
>> favorable, I'll offer my suggestions for a path toward a goal but I won't 
>> take on any responsibilities unless an explicit majority of this community 
>> give me mandate to move forward with a plan. To put a timeframe on it, 
>> essentially, I'll probably have some feeling for which way this will likely 
>> go in a few days, maybe a week.
>> 
>> In a separate email, I will discuss some more details of my meeting at Avid. 
>> Please be aware that I won't engage in a debate on the merits of any given 
>> approach. I'm tired of defending and explaining things. Politicians usually 
>> have a staff to handle such things. Please don't occupy my bandwidth with a 
>> whole bunch of suggestions that will require loads of my time to respond to. 
>> This is a public forum and everybody's entitled to express themselves but, 
>> just as I am required not to take things personally, don't take it 
>> personally if I don't engage in a debate about the merits of a particular 
>> approach. I believe what I'm doing is right and that, every step of the way, 
>> I've made good choices.
>> 
>> I have a short session in about a half hour so the email about the meeting 
>> will follow in the afternoon.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
> 
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