Compression has never ever ever been something that I've understood. The
last time I asked on list people chewed the f*** out of me off list
privately. I then went over to midimag and was told my question was off
topic. I posted to PC Audio and was not only told I was off topic, but was
banned from the list due to untrue rumors that were spread about me by a
list member very quickly once he saw I had joined the list. I dono what the
hell his issue was, but anyway... Frankly, I'll be honest to say, vocals
just might not be my thing.
I have a bit of mental retardation, and that isn't a joke. I literally have
been diagnosed clennically with a slight bit, so though not profound in the
least, one thing that is effected horrifically is my part of the brane which
neurologically deals a lot with logic and with mathematics. For this
reason, I have had compression explained to me on the most simple level you
could imagine. I've even had people like Chuck Reichel try sending me video
tutorials. I'm sorry but bless his heart, I know he was really trying, but
it just didn't make sense. I'm really really pooring my heart felt plee out
to you all here. I want to do music ministry, and really want to record.
It's my dream, so please don't hate me or yell at me for not understanding.
Guys, I'm not a pro like most of you all are. I'm hardly even an ammature.
I'd like to become professional, but I don't see that happening any time
soon.
I probably could also stand to get some voice lessons, but I live out in the
boonies, plus, I can't afford audio productions lessons let alone voice
lessons.
It was hard enough affording Kevin Reeves to work with me the 8 hours he
did. If it wasn't for me doing that, I probably never would have gotten the
hang of ProTools like I have now.
So, I need clarification on a few specific things from you reply. First of
all, when you say loosen up, can you be way more specific? If you mean I
sound really forced, you're not the first person to say I'm very very very
tense. Honestly, I'm not sure how to relax any more. I feel like to get
any variation in my vocals I have to have that strong voice and the only way
to get that is with volume, and the only way to get volume is to project,
and the only way to project is to push. Plus, I'm so scared people are not
going to like the vocal that I wind up probably all tensified and wind up
trying way too hard.
No, the way you heard it on the mike is actually about how without a mike
I'd sing it believe it or not.
On the note of compression, I understand I really! need to get the hang of
this, and quit relying on presets in the librarian menu to do it all for me,
but please! I'm begging you, can you at least tell me, and I know it's one
of these things, generally, no, you can't, as I have to play with it, and
experiment, and just listen to the sound, but can you at least give me a
plugin that comes with version 10.0 natively, and tell me after popping it
on an insert, step by step what to vo+right arrow past in the plugin window
and specifically what control to look for, and how voiceover would read it,
and tell me what to try setting it to and what preset to start with? I know
I may have to play a bit, but can you at least tell me keystroke by
keystroke something I can try to at least get a good compression ratio set
to start from that you would almost bet would maybe not be the key, but
would at least improve things a bit based on my voice?
I know I'm gonna have to eventually find a way to learn the basics of
compression, but but I don't know how I'm going to. I have a severe hearing
loss, especially on the higher frequencies, so honestly, even if you squash
the living snot out of it, I still have trouble hearing the effect. I know
this is far from the list to be asking for help on mixing as this list is
more for PT discussion, but if you all can at least help me enough to get me
started, I promise once we can help me with the basics of good vocal mixing,
I swear to god, I won't keep bugging you. Promised! Please though, help me
reach my dream. All I've ever in life wanted is to make a good recording
that I could go back and listen to and say hey, look, I really can do this
after all!
On the final note, you said the vocals were a bit too much over the music.
I agree, but I'm not totally sure how to fix that. I know the compression,
but would you say it probably is going to be better to back my gain knob off
a ways on my Fast Track C400 interface, or do you think it would be better
to actually turn down the output fader on the vocal track in PT itself, or
would you simply just maybe start by trying to back off the mike a bit. I
know it's all play/listen/try, trial an error, but where should I start?
Can you give me one thing to try, then rebounce, and I'll let you all hear
it again, and then we can decide what's next. I want to do the mixing
myself rather than send you all the session, as if you all do it for me,
I'll never learn. I just don't know I have the trained enough ear to catch
these things, and that's why I want you all to at least give me some
specific instructions step by step on what to vo+space on, or what to
interact with and turn up or down a bit and see what happens.
Sorry for the very very very lengthy message, but I wanted to give a good
indication of the problem I now face.
I'm on PT 10.0, and am using a Fast Track C400 interface with a Blue
Bluebird microphone and the wind screen popfilter that comes with the mike
and a set of AKG headphones but don't remember the model exactly. I want to
say M2 but that doesn't sound right.
Anyway, hopefully that gives you an idea of my hardware.
Take care.
Chris.
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