Ricky,
You actually've heard one of my recordings with all this stuff listed below
when I did Everlasting God. Which I dono whatever came of that project...
Hint: Get with me off list...
Anyway, I'm using a Macbook mid 2010 pollie-carbon 13 inch 5200RPM Mavericks
10.9 2GB ram, ProTools 10.0, Yamaha DGX500 Portable Grand keyboard, not sure
what type of sustain peddle although it's killer! M-Audio Fast-Track C400
audio/Midi USB interface, Belcon USB KVM Switch, not sure the model, AKG
headphones, again I don't recall the model, stainless steel upright floor
microphone stand ranges from 2 feet to 7 feet. Blue Bluebird microphone
with pop filter, Altech Lanzing PC speakers with sub woofer, 200W per
channel over 3 channels: left, right, and sub, 10 foot balanced male XLR to
female XLR mike cable, 15 feet stereo Quarter inch, to single stereo 8th
inch gold tip Monster Cable, 2 4 1/2 foot midi monster cables one for in,
and one for out, Eppaphone SG50 cherry oak electric guitar, Fender Mustang
guitar amp 100W. Auto-Tune when I need it, Piano Tech 4 Stage, Main Stage
3.0, 2nd gen ILok, Aluminum white standard full sized USB Apple keyboard,
Acer 17 inch flat pannel display monitor with HD, Apple Earpods for little
children who come to record who's little heads are too small for the
headphones, lots and I do means lots, of handfulls worth of adapters of all
different sizes, probably 2 drawers full. Gateway DX300S Windows desktop
tower Windows XP SP3 Pro, JFW 15, Sonar 4.2 with JSonar scripts soon to be
updated to Sonar 8 and Sonar Talking, PG-Music Band in a Box 2013 Ultimate
with all Real Tracks included, extra internal SATA 7200RPM 500GB hard disk,
C drive is an 80GB SATA 7200. 1.5GB DDR2 ram, Soundblaster Audigy 2ZS
probably soon will be upgrading it to a Delta unless someone has better
suggestions, LG CD/DVD writer, don't know the model, but it does support
Lightscribe. SoundForge 10.0 Pro.
I think that pretty much covers it for my DAW setup.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricky Prevatte" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Monitoring levels
Chris what are you using? What kind of mixer and that sort of thing what
makes up your daw?
Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
On May 7, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Chris Smart <[email protected]> wrote:
Granted, I'm a Windows guy, but do you have a way of routing VO and other
system sounds through different outputs, or a different speaker or
headphones?
In Windows I have system sounds and my screen reader going through a
secondary interface.
At 09:11 AM 5/7/2014, you wrote:
Slau,
I have a question then,
I find that on my monitors, if I leave my volume slider in ProTools on a
vocal track at 0%, then on my interface, I turn my gain dial way down to
the point where in PT, on that track, it shows -18DB, that is so
profusely quiet, that I literally almost cannot even hear it unless I
turn my monitors almost 3 fourths the way up. Which of corse is way!
way! quieter than Voiceover speech, or say my music instrument tracks
etc. In order to get a good level that is audible, I'm having to way
raise that gain. Even if I don't raise the gain on my interface, but
pull the slider on the track in PT all the way to +12DB, which is
practically all the way up, it only then starts! to become audible. I
know you're probably saying, then, ok, Chris, you're music is way way way
too hot. Crank it way the hell down! If I do that, then again, the over
all level is very crisp and clean and doesn't clip, but at the same time,
compared to my over all volume, PT not with standing, the recording
volume is so pathetically low in comparison to everything else, that if I
crank it up enough to hear it, any other sound that gets fed through like
Alex from Voiceover etc. literally is deafening! I understand we're
talking two different levels here. the one on my interface is the input
volume, whilst the one on the track in PT is the output volume, I totally
get that. I'm just not sure how to keep that input gain on my interface
real real low, yet achieve the same level on the output volume without
having to bring that input gain so hot. I do have an insert I sometimes
pop on a vocal track, it's just one of the default pre-installed dynamic
compression plugins, and yeah, if I set the preset to vocal leveler, it
helps some, but I don't always want compression. All I need is an output
volume only boost. I thought about using a Pre, if I could find a good
hardware one that was accessible, but even that is gonna be for the input
gain, not the output.
So, if you have any suggestions, or think you may know what is going on,
let me know.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Slau Halatyn
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: Monitoring levels
Chris,
If you're in danger of clipping, you're recording way too hot. With
something like a vocal, your final peak should be -9 to -6 dB full scale.
That means your average level should be in the range of -18 to -12 dB.
That's what headroom is for. You're recording with 24 bits which give you
a theoretical dynamic range of of 140 decibels. The sources you're
recording are nowhere near 140 decibels, not even close. By pulling back
your level, you'll eliminate any concern over clipping. Pro Tools is
designed to have average levels at -18 dB. 18 decibels of headroom is
plenty for just about anything you'll ever record.
Slau
On May 7, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
I'm 100% perfectly aware that I can monitor the level of an individual
track by interacting with it, then finding the meter, and then, I can
keep hitting vo+F3 to read what's under the Voiceover cursor. what
however I'm looking for, is something slightly more robust. Is there a
way, and if so, how, that I could asign a hotspot or something similar
then have it where it won't read the meter automatically, no, however,
if, and only! if, I clip, it'll automatically trigger voiceover to say
clipped, or to read the meter in such of a way I'll know I'm clipping?
Sometimes, with my hearing loss, it's slightly tricky for me to know
audibly, until it gets where it's so badly clipping, that it's flat out
disgusting. The issue is, yeah, I could manually look, but what if I
only clip on say, one note? If I sing right over that note for instance
then check the meter one or two notes early/late, I might miss something
very very important. I'm just wonderring the best way to hit that meter
dead spot on, so I know instantly! that I'm clipping.
Chris.
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