One more thing just popped into my head. In the Edit window, the same (or 
similar) behavior is seen with the tracks in a vertical orientation: at a 
certain point, there's a group that sometimes appears earlier in the list 
rather than together with the rest of the tracks in the timeline. the same 
issue exists here, as far as I can tell. Surely, hiding tracks you don't need 
is a good way to simplify but sometimes keeping more tracks visible is 
advantageous. Anyway…

I don't remember if I specified in my previous message but, as some folks might 
already know, VoiceOver sometimes sees things that are concealed visually. This 
is both an advantage and disadvantage. I became somewhat exasperated with my 
assistant when she couldn't see something on screen that VoiceOver clearly saw. 
I insisted it must be there and, in fact, it wasn't, at least not until she 
clicked on a disclosure triangle and finally saw it. Meanwhile, VoiceOver saw 
it despite the fact that it was technically hidden because of the collapsed 
disclosure triangle. Funny… and yet not funny.

Slau

On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Scott Chesworth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nice one, never thought to try hitting page up. Thanks for the tip!
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 4/12/15, Slau Halatyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> For a few years, I've been using the newer versions of Pro Tools but only
>> began using the latest version at the studio as of this year. Having spent
>> more time with PT 11 on a day-to-day basis, I've come to notice something
>> that didn't occur to me earlier. I've never seen mention of it on the list
>> although the general subject has come up. I have not, however, seen any
>> posts offering the following explanation. For what it's worth, here it is:
>> 
>> As, I'm sure, many of you have noticed, tracks sometimes appear, for lack of
>> a better way of saying it, "to the left" of the Tracks List pop-up button
>> (erroneously labeled, "Show/Hide label.") When interacting with those
>> tracks, VoiceOver does see all of the elements and one can certainly
>> interact with controls and change input paths, etc. However, when trying to
>> perform actions that involve routing the mouse pointer and doing a modified
>> click, things don't work as expected. Actually, they don't work at all. The
>> reason is that, when the tracks appear to be to the left of that pop-up
>> button, they're actually not visible on screen and therefore cannot be
>> accessed by the mouse pointer. Scrolling into view has certainly been
>> suggested on the list as well as showing only the tracks in question. That's
>> all good but an alternative is to simply page up or, even quicker, use the
>> bank select on a control surface to expose the left-most tracks or,
>> conversely, the right-most bank if that's what you need.
>> 
>> This is one of those things that has come up on the list a few times but
>> I've never seen this particular observation. Regardless, putting it out
>> there.
>> 
>> Slau
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