The big problem is that this is not a 100% fix. It's dependent on where
the screen is scrolled as you're using page up or down. For example, in
a session with more than 100 tracks you don't know how many times to
press page down in order to rout the mouse let's say to the I/O field.
So, if you want to use the modifier keys with the mouse to do something
with tracks 60, 61 and 62 you would select those 3 tracks and use option
shift to change the I/O on those 3 tracks. The problem becomes even with
scroll in to view as you page down for the screen to match VO you
wouldn't know how many times to press the page down key and it also
depends on your track size. I've been using this method since version 9
and I've gotten pretty good at doing it by feel but I always end up
double checking with one of the tracks I'm changing the field on. The
more unfortunate part is while bank select did work on certain surfaces
such as the C|24, Control 24 and others through version 11, version 12
of PT does not work where the bank select changes VO's view with the
D-command and D-control. On the D-control you're able to do this on the
board but again, it's visually using a combo of buttons and the scroll
wheel so doing this by feel is not so simple.
On 4/12/2015 10:37 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
One more thing just popped into my head. In the Edit window, the same (or
similar) behavior is seen with the tracks in a vertical orientation: at a
certain point, there's a group that sometimes appears earlier in the list
rather than together with the rest of the tracks in the timeline. the same
issue exists here, as far as I can tell. Surely, hiding tracks you don't need
is a good way to simplify but sometimes keeping more tracks visible is
advantageous. Anyway…
I don't remember if I specified in my previous message but, as some folks might
already know, VoiceOver sometimes sees things that are concealed visually. This
is both an advantage and disadvantage. I became somewhat exasperated with my
assistant when she couldn't see something on screen that VoiceOver clearly saw.
I insisted it must be there and, in fact, it wasn't, at least not until she
clicked on a disclosure triangle and finally saw it. Meanwhile, VoiceOver saw
it despite the fact that it was technically hidden because of the collapsed
disclosure triangle. Funny… and yet not funny.
Slau
On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Scott Chesworth <[email protected]> wrote:
Nice one, never thought to try hitting page up. Thanks for the tip!
Scott
On 4/12/15, Slau Halatyn <[email protected]> wrote:
For a few years, I've been using the newer versions of Pro Tools but only
began using the latest version at the studio as of this year. Having spent
more time with PT 11 on a day-to-day basis, I've come to notice something
that didn't occur to me earlier. I've never seen mention of it on the list
although the general subject has come up. I have not, however, seen any
posts offering the following explanation. For what it's worth, here it is:
As, I'm sure, many of you have noticed, tracks sometimes appear, for lack of
a better way of saying it, "to the left" of the Tracks List pop-up button
(erroneously labeled, "Show/Hide label.") When interacting with those
tracks, VoiceOver does see all of the elements and one can certainly
interact with controls and change input paths, etc. However, when trying to
perform actions that involve routing the mouse pointer and doing a modified
click, things don't work as expected. Actually, they don't work at all. The
reason is that, when the tracks appear to be to the left of that pop-up
button, they're actually not visible on screen and therefore cannot be
accessed by the mouse pointer. Scrolling into view has certainly been
suggested on the list as well as showing only the tracks in question. That's
all good but an alternative is to simply page up or, even quicker, use the
bank select on a control surface to expose the left-most tracks or,
conversely, the right-most bank if that's what you need.
This is one of those things that has come up on the list a few times but
I've never seen this particular observation. Regardless, putting it out
there.
Slau
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