Sorry for the crosspost. I wanted to consult both lists though to make sure I 
get the best answer from both DAW angles. Though this is mainly about Reaper, 
not ProTools, there definitely are some aspects which are crutial to 
understanding in means of comparing how PT does things vs. how Reaper would do 
it. So, in that sense, yes, this is on topic.

So... I'm trying to train a friend of mine how to better mix audio. We've not 
yet gotten to the point where I'm teaching him the masterring phase.

Right now, we're working on gain staging, microphone placement/proxemity, etc.

The issue is he recorded a test audio file onto a track in Reaper, then while 
playing, he looked at his meters as his vocal was extremely extremely quiet. I 
get that you want some headroom so you're not going to push 0, which obviously 
equals a ruined recording in most cases. I told him on his meters to aim for 
around -12 to about -10, at most, DB. Then, we can use a compressor, or in some 
cases, other tricks to bring that up in the mix later.

I was very clear that when I said -12 to -10DB I was talking about the input 
signal level. Not the output level adjusted by the volume control in whatever 
DAW you're using located on the actual track itself.

He's not using an interface, just a general USB headset, so he doesn't really 
aside the Windows volume mixer have much control over gain adjustment. For this 
reason, I wanted him to aim a little low. Preferably, I'd like him to have 
about 6, to 3 at the least amount, DB of headroom he can work with. All this 
said, when he hits J and K while on the track in Reaper, he's showing the 
meters at around -50 on an average.

Now, here's where I'm! getting real confused! In ProTools, which is my choice 
of DAW for most things, when importing his recording on to an audio track, I'm 
seeing his levels at about -24DB on the peek. This makes a lot! more sense. 
-Come on! 50DB I don't think even would be audible in most cases.

He's not doing something wrong though in Reaper, as I checked it on my end in 
Reaper, and I see exactly the same readings he's getting. So, how in the world 
are our meters differring so much from DAW to DAW. I get that each DAW is gonna 
be a bit different on how the meterring works, but over all, signal noise ratio 
shouldn't fluctuate that drasticly, should it? I could see maybe 3 or 4, maybe 
even upwards to 5 DB's difference, but not to the point where it's doubling the 
DB signal from about -50 to -25. That just doesn't make any sense! Audibly, the 
levels sounds the same.

In PT, I have my meters set to hold infinent, so at the highest peek, they 
stick until I reset them. I still however don't think that's the issue here.

So, I guess ultimately, what I'm asking is, what signal is being considerred in 
Reaper on a track when you hit J and K? I mean I know J is the left channel, 
K's the right channel. Duh! I get that. What I mean is, is it showing the 
current output level, or is it showing more the signal coming to the input IO 
path, or what?

I'm wonderring if ProTools is somehow analyzing a different signal path than 
what I'm getting with Reaper, although, I don't see how that would be the case.

I can't effectively teach this guy until I get this mystory resolved, as he's 
not wanting to focus on just one DAW, like ProTools, or Reaper. He wants to 
more learn about mixing over all in a more broader scale.

Chris.

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