Hi,

The one thing here is that on the new firmware release the bookmarks
will be intact when upgrading.  However, there is definitely a problem
with the manual in that section, though I can see a logic to the restore
all settings option verses the remove all bookmarks option (the later
doing the bookmarks, the former doing the settings but not the
bookmarks).  Also I aggree 100% that it should be possible to back up
such material - ias it is possible to have so much information on the
PTR1, this is useless if it can get lost easily.

Andrew.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 22 June 2004 20:10
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Bookmar Cautions
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> I'm pretty P/o right now because the one thing I was dreading 
> the most just
> happen and I thought I would let the group know that they 
> should beware of
> the following incorrect text below from the PTR manual. I just lost
> absolutely all my voice notes and bookmarks which of course means I've
> wasted an incredible amount of my freakin time indexing my 
> books and other
> material using PTR1's faulty bookmarks and such to then lose all this
> information in an instant as a result of a plextalk firmware defect.
> 
> 
> 
> I was reading a book read onto my Toshiba card, and while 
> rewinding, the
> card became stuck. I listened to the PTR1's rewind mechanism 
> and it made 0
> noise telling me that the PC card was stuck. I heard the 
> waiting tone for a
> long time before finally deciding to simply turn the unit off 
> by pulling the
> battery out of it since it would not shut down in any other 
> way. I turned
> the p1 back on and the pc card was working fine and all my 
> bookmarks were
> intact. The problem now was that I was getting a prompt from 
> the p1 telling
> me that my daisy book on CD was not identifiable even though 
> it was reading
> before all this happened. I was also instructed to reset all 
> settings. I did
> this by going into the control panel per the manual's 
> instructions below.
> Everything seemed alright until I pressed the bookmarks 
> button to check to
> see if my bookmarks and notes were still there, but of course 
> they weren't.
> Damn! I knew this would happen, but as noted in
> 
> the text below from the manual, it stated all bookmarks and 
> notes would be
> alright, so I didn't think there was going to be a problem.
> 
> 
> 
> My point: 1. Most of us already know, but for the newcomers, 
> absolutely do
> not trust the plextalk manual. 2. again, Plextalk must create 
> a manner by
> which the user can backup their freakin bookmarks!!! Just as 
> there have been
> updates to the P1 within the last couple of years, there will 
> more than
> likely be more in the future. Does this mean users such as 
> myself which need
> to access information quickly must reread their entire 
> bookshelf of books in
> order to index and restructure and re-bookmark all their 
> books? I just lost
> all my personal notes and bookmarks for about 30 textbooks 
> and personal
> recordings. Why even bother allowing one to place bookmarks 
> if they will be
> completely useless every 6 months or year when Plextalk puts out a new
> firmware revision.
> 
> 
> 
> 10 USING OTHER PLEXTALK CAPABILITIES
> 
> 
> This section covers a variety of other capabilities of the 
> Plextalk Portable
> Recorder.
> 
>  10.1 Clear All Settings
> 
> You can use the menu to clear all settings, and return the 
> Plextalk Portable
> Recorder to its default factory settings. Even if all the settings are
> cleared, the bookmark information and the notepads remain intact.
> 
> 
> 
> Again, the text immediately above is BS, so don't trust any Plextalk
> documentation if you value your data.
> 
> J Garcia
> 
> 
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