DAISY 3 has additional navigation possibilities, but they would have
to be used by the book producer.  The best place to start is the
daisy.org web site.  The standard can also be viewed from the NLS
home page http://www.loc.gov/nls

Dave



David Andrews
Chief Technology Officer
Minnesota State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave. W., #240
St. Paul, MN  55114-1840\
(651) 642-0513

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/04 12:15PM >>>
Dave,

This may seem like a dumb question, but what is the difference
between daisy
2 and daisy 3? Is one more robust than the other in terms of
navigation? If
simply giving me a link to a webpage where I can read for myself is
faster,
then please just send the link so I don't waste too much of your
time.

J Garcia
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David B Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: Bookshare files - Daisy navigation?


> The other problem here, is that BookShare.org files are
ANSI/NISO
> DAISY 3  books.  The PTR-1 uses DAISY 2.02 standard books, as do
> most other players.  The Telex Scholar will play version 3 books
> however.  So, you need to consider this in addition to the
text-only
> situation.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> David Andrews
> Chief Technology Officer
> Minnesota State Services for the Blind
> 2200 University Ave. W., #240
> St. Paul, MN  55114-1840\
> (651) 642-0513
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/22/04 08:39AM >>>
> Thanks very much, Andrew.
>
> Bookshare _does_ give you a compressed download.  When unpacked,
> you wind up
> with:
> - a .CSS (Cascading Style Sheet Document)
> - an HTML version of the book
> - a rather small .NCX file
> - a 1KB .OPF file
> - a .SMIL file of the book
> - an .XML file of the book
>
> The only "Ncc" file is the one that PRS creates when I create a
new
> book.
> However, when I try DAISY import through PRS, it finds
> nothing.....
>
> My intuition was telling me exactly what you said, but I'm
grateful
> for any
> additional info.
>
> Incidentally, Bookshare's tech support said the following.  I've
> just
> downloaded a demo of the Text Aloud software that the gentleman
> references.
> If it offers anything worthwhile, I'll get back to the list.
>
> Thanks much, Andrew
>
> Neil
>
> (quoting)
>
>  The files which comprise the DAISY standard are of three
different
> types.
> One of these is DAISY Audio.  DAISY audio books usually come on
CD
> and
> contain human speech recordings of books.  RFB&D is the most
> well-known
> provider of DAISY Audio Content.  The second type is DAISY Text.
> Bookshare.org provides books that are DAISY Text.  This means
that
> there is
> no recorded audio.  Instead, there is electronic text which may
be
> used to
> view the documents in large print, electronic Braille, embossed
> Braille or
> listened to with synthetic speech.  The third type, not yet
widely
> available, are synchronized DAISY books which contain both
recorded
> speech
> and electronic text which may be referenced from one to the
other.
> Because
> Bookshare.org books contain only the text of the books and no
> audio
> recording, they may not be listened to on an audio player such
as
> those from
> Plextor, Telex or Visuaide.  The only way to use an audio
playback
> device is
> to first use the provided text to create an MP3 audio file which
> contains a
> reading of the text.  This may be accomplished using a
third-party
> application which will use synthesized speech to create a
reading
> of the
> material.  Kurzweil and Open Book both have the ability to
> transform text
> into an MP3 audio file.  An another application which can do the
> job is Text
> Aloud from Nextup Software at http://www.textaloud.com 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: RE: Bookshare files - Daisy navigation?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> What are the files you get with Bookshare?  Are they compressed
or
> somesuch?
> There should be an ncc.html file somewhere, even if it is
> encrypted.  The
> issue here is that the book is not in audio - the markings are
for
> the text
> version, so these would have to be converted to audio markers to
> get what
> you want - something I am not sure is available on any Daisy
> conversion
> software.  If I were you, I would continue to carry on with
> Kurzweil.
>
> Andrew.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Neil Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 21 June 2004 23:21
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: Bookshare files - Daisy navigation?
> >
> > I've been pretty successful in using the PRS to create audio
> > books on CD,
> > but . . . here's my problem:
> >
> > Bookshare doesn't seem to create an "Ncc" file (that PRS
> > seems to require to
> > import a DAISY file).  Without it, I've been saving an HTML
> > file of the book
> > as a text file, then using the PRS's text import capabilities.
> >
> > This makes a book, but it's just one _long_ file (no
> > navigation capabilities
> > whatsoever).  If you change books temporarily, it takes weeks
to
> speed
> > around the file to figure out where you left off ;-)
> >
> > I was running a demo copy of the Kurzweil software while I
> > wait for funding
> > for a fully functional version.  My demo CD has expired,
> > but--before it
> > did--I could readily import the text file into Kurzweil, then
> > have it create
> > a separate MP3 file for each page.  Better than nothing.
> >
> > Does anybody know how to create audio books with Bookshare
> > files, AND get
> > DAISY navigation capabilities?
> >
> > Thanks much....
> >
> > Neil
> >
>
>
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