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Date: Saturday, 17 October 1998 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: One Nation
>[JK]
>
>I think perhaps you could spell out for me exactly what are the racist
>policies of One Nation. I have yet been unable to define any?
>
>[AL]
>1. Hostility to Aboriginals as enjoying "privileges" denied to the
>rest of us - despite everyone knowing that as a group they are worse off
>than average.
They are worse off because of their own genius ( I mean the dictionary
definition of the word), and no help from the white fella is the best help
they could get. Do-gooders have done more harm to the boong (aboriginal
word - look it up in a dictionary) than they do even to themselves. We know
they are 'worse off' (by white fellas standards of course, the black fellas
are not consulted on the question, as naturally only the white fella knows
what is good for them), because we count everything according to our god -
mammon!
>
>2. Hostility to "Asians" as an alien influence linked to
>crime/unemployment/drugs rather than a welcome part of our society.
Bloody racist - I knew you would be hoist on your own petard, as you have
just divided individuals into racial groups like all so-called anti-racists
always do. Do you really believe an Asian would think his race to be
inferior to others? I suppose you have stopped wanking too?! Come down off
the cross, we need the wood.
>
>[JK]
>Aren't the main issues in Australia today - crime/unemployment/drugs
>(CUD
>or DUC)?
>
>[AL]
>People with different political views inevitably see different
>issues as the main issues. For example the ALP and the Coalition just
>won 80% of the votes while claiming that the GST was the most important
>issue. Personally I think unemployment is a major issue but drugs and
>crime are relatively minor issues along with many others(though still
>important).
>
>In addition people with different political views support different
>policies with respect to the same issues.
>
>For example on drugs and crime and the link between the two,
>you might see them and unemployment as the most important issues,
>without following One Nation in claiming some connection with "Asians".
>
>One (popular) view on drugs and crime supports heavier penalties and
>more policing. Another (less popular) supports legalization of dangerous
>drugs to break the link between drugs and crime and reduce the
>attraction of drugs to people who think that killing themselves slowly
>is "rebellious".
>
>That could be an interesting discussion in a separate thread.
>
>[JK]
>The sale of Telstra completely should proceed, but with controls similar
>to
>media/TV. The important thing about the GST, is that it will collect
>some
>taxation from profit shifters...for example, Hong Kong company owns
>Hotel
>in Australia. Australian net profit is reduced by management charges
>payable to Hong Kong Company. Result is that the management charges are
>taxed in HK at 15%. No income tax is payable in Australia. With a
>GST,
>10% taxation will be collected in Australia.
>
>On immigration, I am yet to see the arguments for and against, that
>demonstrate the effect on unemployment. At first glance, it would seem
>that immigration would add to unemployment?
>
>Both Liberal and ALP have zero tariff protection policies. The results
>of
>this are the decimation of manufacturing industries and the accompanying
>unemployment of low skilled workers.
>
>...........John
>
>[AL] On Telstra your views seem closer to the ALP and Coalition than
>to One Nation, the Democrats or the Greens who strongly oppose
>proceeding with the sale. (I regard the ALP's "opposition" as complete
>bullshit since they initiated the process).
>
>On the GST your views seem closer to the Coalition than to One Nation,
>and the Greens who strongly oppose the GST, or the Democrats who are
>hostile to it while willing to accept it except on food, and the ALP who
>would also introduce it but have chosen to oppose it to distinguish
>themselves from the Coalition.
>
>On immigration your view that "at first glance" immigration would lead
>to unemployment is shared by the ALP, Coalition, One Nation, Democrats
>and Greens who all advocate sharply reduced immigration rather than face
>up to the difficulty of explaining why that first impression might not
>be correct.
>
>On tariffs your view about the ALP and Coalition policies is shared by
>One Nation, the Democrats and the Greens. (I am closer to the ALP and
>and Coalition on that issue and will argue it in the "MAI" subject
>thread when Brian Jenkins responds as promised).
>
>These are all important issues which should be the subject of vigorous
>discussion within Neither (in separate subject threads).
>
>But there is one thing we ought to be able to agree on. Such vigorous
>discussion should be taking place throughout Australian society and it
>is currently paralysed by having an unrepresentative legislature
>dominated by two parties who exclude all other views.
>
>The sheer confusion evident in the positions taken by the various
>parties and their supporters is a consequence of there being no serious
>national debate about politics.
>
>The emergence of One Nation is not primarily due to their racist
>policies, or the policies they share with the Greens and Democrats,
>but to their opposition to the ALP and the Coalition, and the extreme
>confusion in Australian politics at the moment.
>
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