>From the viewpoint of Australian democrats, the existence of a benign
symbolic monarchy proved very important recently - as an effective defence
against an attempted takeover by the kin of Rothschild. Had the British
monarchy been slightly more discredited, many more idiot voters (ie, those
failing to see the difference between 'the Crown' and 'King Charlie/Queen
Camilla') would have voted Yes and put us into a fast-track 'republic'
designed for corporations and their bureaucrats.
I can't disagree with Dion about the UK's vestigial despots (who were
reintroduced after the Cromwellian alternative was tried and found
wanting, though it improved the quality and standards of beer). As the
Sydney Push used to say, we don't like authoritarian forces - but it's
better to have two than one, since they can be set off against each other.
(Remember that lovely old yarn about the manufactured brawl between cops
and council workers.)
Therefore, until I see the germination of a real republic, I'm very
thankful for the Queen's apron strings!
Regards
Brian Jenkins
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From: Philip Madsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Dion Giles
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, 13 January 2000 6:35
Subject: Re: THE QUEEN'S STATE VISIT TO AUSTRALIA
|Dion, this response of yours ignores two important considerations.
|(a) The principle of a hereditary head of state is more stable , whether
|benevolent or malevolent is not a factor. (though this system by its
nature
|tends to cause the holders family to try to remain popular.)
|
|(b) An elected head of state has a limited time in office, Popularity
|becomes secondary to accrueing as much moola in the bank with the
handsome
|super package. Thus Corruption and control by special interests like the
|money power, allows for the undermining of the 1st principle stability.
|
|Mind you I am not referring to the current monarchys. These all lost
their
|true status when they abrogated their sole right to create coin and
credit.
|AS HAS DONE ALL DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD. The British monarch
no
|longer has to remain popular, has no power to help the people, is aware
of
|its limited tenure, and of course thus also more concerned with
|consolidating its finacial base.
|
|"let me control the credit of a nation and I care not who holds the
|political power" Rothchild
|
|But I await the counter rebellion to restore all things. This is certain
to
|happen when the current slide in the civilisation gets bad enough.
|
|Philip Madsen.
|----- Original Message -----
|From: "Dion Giles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:42 PM
|Subject: Re: THE QUEEN'S STATE VISIT TO AUSTRALIA
|
|
|> It is hard to see what significance the lynch-pin of the English caste
|> system, heir to a centuries-old tradition of murderous oppression of
the
|> people and of its rivals, and implacable opposition to every democratic
|> advance and move for national independence both within Britain and in
its
|> colonies, can have for Australian democracy.
|>
|> Dion Giles
|> Fremantle
|>
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