Frederick Giasson wrote:
Hi all,
First of all, I think that this thread is going out of control and
some things have to be keep into mind when we talk about this stuff.
Then between UMBEL and OpenCyc:
1. owl:sameAs
2. owl:equivalentClass
If these thingies are owl:sameAs, then presumably they have same
IP- related characteristics, owners, creation dates etc?
Does that mean Cycorp owns UMBEL?
Dan,
No, it implies that in the UMBEL data space you have equivalence
between Classes used to define UMBEL subject concepts (subject
matter entities) and OpenCyc.
Exact Damian,
"does that mean Cycorp owns UMBEL"? : no.
Dan wanted to show the strongness of the sameAs property with such a
conclusion
But the current fact is that UMBEL is a subset of OpenCyc (that is a
subset of Cyc) where each UMBEL subject concept is an equivalentClass
to a OpenCyc class. No sameAs relationship exists between umbel
subject concepts and opencyc classes: everything happen at the "class
level".
Now, what happen for UMBEL named entities? (invididual of classes).
Some UMBEL named entities are sameAs dbpedia resources, yago
resources, etc. However, the question is: does that mean that dbpedia
or yago own umbel named entities? No.
One set of named entities that describes named entities that appear on
Wikipedia (and another one describe named entities described in the
john peel sessions dataset from the bbc). On its side, DBpedia has
done the same thing: it described individual of classes that appear on
Wikipedia.
So, if a sameAs statement is done between the UMBEL named entity (that
is an individual of a class; so a candidate to use sameAs) that
describe Abraham Lincoln for example, is sameAs, DBPedia's resource
describing Abraham_Lincoln; does that mean that the "meta data that
describe the creator of the description of the resource" is the same
too? No since as other said on this thread: this "meta-data" would be
described as its own resource.
In any case, sameAs is a really strong statement to link instances of
classes together. It is why we introduced the property umbel:isLike in
umbel for example (still a test and feedbacks are welcome :) )
Thanks,
Take care,
Fred
Fred,
The missing example :-)
<http://umbel.org/umbel/ne/example/> a sc:Boxer ;
owl:sameAs <http://www.ali.com/me/> ;
owl:sameAs <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Muhammad_Ali> ;
owl:sameAs <http://www.mpii.de/yago/resource/Muhammad_Ali > ;
umbel:isLike <http://yet-another-ne.com/resource/Muhammad_Ali_junior> ;
umbel:hasSemset <http://umbel.org/umbel/semset/example/> .
From: http://www.umbel.org/technical_documentation.html
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