Aldo Bucchi wrote:
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Kingsley Idehen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yves Raimond wrote:
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Giovanni Tummarello
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Overall, that's about 17 billion.
IMO considering myspace 12 billion triples as part of LOD, is quite a
stretch (same with other wrappers) unless they are provided by the
entity itself (E.g. i WOULD count in livejournal foaf file on the
other hand, ok they're not linked but they're not less useful than the
myspace wrapper are they? (in fact they are linked quite well if you
use the google social API)
Actually, I don't think I can agree with that. Whether we want it or
not, most of the data we publish (all of it, apart from specific cases
e.g. review) is provided by wrappers of some sort, e.g. Virtuoso, D2R,
P2R, web services wrapper etc. Hence, it makes not sense trying to
distinguish datasets on the basis they're published through a
"wrapper" or not.
Within LOD, we only segregate datasets for inclusion in the diagram on
the basis they are published according to linked data principles. The
stats I sent reflect just that: some stats about the datasets
currently in the diagram.
The origin of the data shouldn't matter. The fact that it is published
according to linked data principles and linked to at least one dataset
in the cloud should matter.
Giovanni
Yves,
I agree. But I am sure you can also see the inherent futility in pursuing
the size of the pure Linked Data Web :-) The moment you arrive at a number
it will be obsolete :-)
I would frame the question this way: is LOD hub now dense enough for basic
demonstrations of Linked Data Web utility to everyday Web users? For
example, can we "Find" stuff on the Web with levels of precision and
serendipity erstwhile unattainable? Can we now tag stuff on the Web in a
manner that makes tagging useful? Can we alleviate the daily costs of Spam
on mail inboxes? Can all of the aforementioned provide the basis for
relevant discourse discovery and participation?
Sorry, this is getting too interesting to stay in lurker mode ;)
Kingsley, absolutely. We have got to that point. The fun part has begun.
To quote Jim, who started this thread:
http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/03/jim_hendler_talks_about_the_se.php
Go to minute 28 aprox ( I can't listen to it here, I just blocked mp3's ).
Jim touches on how a geo corpus can be used to dissambiguate tags on flickr.
This is one such use, low hanging fruit wrt the huge amount of linked
data, and a first timer in terms of IT.
This was not possible last year!
It is now.
I guess that is THE question now: What can we do this year that we
couldn't do last year?
( thanks to the massive amount of available LOD ).
Best,
A
Aldo,
Yep!
So we should start building up a simple collection (in a Wiki) of simple
and valuable things you can now achieve courtesy of Linked Data :-)
"Find" replacing "Search" as the apex of the Web value proposition
pyramid for everyday Web Users.
Courtesy of Linked Data (warehouse and/or dynamic), every Web
information resource is now a "DBMS View" in disguise :-)
Kingsley
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OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
