Hi

On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:45, "Georgi Kobilarov" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Aldo,

Georgi you are mistaken. Links to resources or even simple things such as reusing labels are already saving me time and money when building apps for
customers.

well, do we then really need all that sophisticated rdf data? If it comes down to reusing labels?

1. It is not complex! Rdf is very basic, least common denominator for a webby graph model 2. We need RDF or similar to cover diverse verticals. Anything less does not scale



in reality I get more than labels, I get maps, relations, etc which otherwise
would have been costly to attain.

Are you describing an application of linked open data, or just open data?

A linked data intranet. They used to have a combo box with countries.
They now have a map an detail pages for each country in multiple languages integrated to the intranet.
Same for other "seconday entities"

All I did was owl:sameAs to dbpedia and virtuoso sponge



Also, the exploration of datasets by jumping links is a great way to attain insights an ideas. Intranet-wise, linkeddata is a killer app and I have hard,
front line evidence.

Please, share your evidence...

Will blog


Cheers,
Georgi


On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:13, "Georgi Kobilarov" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi Bernard,

well, why did I ask people to write about their ideas for apps?
My observation is that there are zero real apps using linked open data
(i.e.
data from "the cloud"). Not even a single one. Null.
After 3 years of "linking open data"...

There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are
applications that use single, hand-picked data sources. But let's be
honest, that's not "using the linked data cloud". So, why's that?
There must be a reason. Which part of the ecosystem sucks?

In my opinion we won't get to solve that question if we stick to
"linked data will save the planet, one day". But instead, figure out
which apps people would want to build now, and then see why it's not
possible.
If it
doesn't work on the small scale of some simple app, how will linked
data ever save our planet?

Cheers,
Georgi

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM
To: Georgi Kobilarov
Cc: public-lod
Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data?

Hi Georgi
Copying below the comment I just posted on ReadWriteWeb. Looks like a
rant, but could have been worse ... I could have added that if the
Web of Data is used to find out more cute cats images, well, I wonder
what I do
on
this boat.
I'm amazed, not to say frightened, by the egocentrism and lack of
imagination of the applications proposed so far. Will the Web of Data
be
an
effective tool for tackling our planet critical issues, or just
another
toy for
spoiled children of the Web?
I would like to see the Web of Data enable people anywhere in the
world to find out smart, sustainable and low-cost solutions to their
local
development
issues. What are the success (or failure) stories in e.g., farming,
water
supply,
energy, education, health etc. in environments similar to mine,
anywhere
in
the world? Something along the lines of http://www.wiserearth.org (of
which data, BTW would be great to have in the Linked Data cloud).
Best
Bernard

2010/4/9 Georgi Kobilarov <[email protected]> Yesterday issued
a challenge on my blog for ideas for concrete linked open data
applications. Because talking about concrete apps helps shaping the
roadmap for the technical questions for the linked data community
ahead.
The
real questions, not the theoretical ones...

Richard MacManus of ReadWriteWeb picked up the challenge:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/web_of_data_what_would_you_
build.php

Let's be creative about stuff we'd build with the web of data.
Assume the
Linked Data Web would be there already, what would build?

Cheers,
Georgi

--
Georgi Kobilarov
Uberblic Labs Berlin
http://blog.georgikobilarov.com




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