To make some publicity here... There will be a LOD Camp at the WWW2010 in Raleigh, NC:
http://www.w3.org/2010/04/w3c-track.html a good place where at least some of the work started by Juan and friends can be pursued! Ivan On Apr 9, 2010, at 21:04 , Juan Sequeda wrote: > Georgi, > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Georgi Kobilarov <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > well, why did I ask people to write about their ideas for apps? > My observation is that there are zero real apps using linked open data (i.e. > data from "the cloud"). Not even a single one. Null. > After 3 years of "linking open data"... > > Just a little bit of history from my perspective... > > This has been my concern from day one! And day one from me was when I > attended the Publishing Linked Data tutorial [1] at ISWC2008! It wasn't clear > to me what you could do with Linked Data, for a web developer perspective. > However, then I saw the Semantic Web Client Library [2] and then it hit me: > Linked Data makes the web appear as one giant database. This is when Olaf > Hartig and I started talking and we created SQUIN [3]. The motivation was > that there isn't an easy way to query the existing Linked Data on the web. > This opened a new problem that has never been faced before (query execution > on a web of linked data), which Olaf has started to tackle [4] and so are we. > > Because ISWC2008 had the publishing linked data tutorial, Olaf Hartig, > Patrick Sinclair (BBC), Jamie Taylor (Freebase) and I thought that ISWC2009 > should have the consuming linked data tutorial. In the process of organizing > the tutorial, we realized that there isn't an organized way of consuming > linked data, hence the lack of linked data apps (apps that consume linked > data). So there is a need to tell people 1) what you can do with linked data > and 2) how you can do it! Hopefully our slides will help: > > www.consuminglinkeddata.org > > We will be presenting this tutorial at WWW2010 in a few weeks. > > However, a few weeks before ISWC2009, I posted a question about consuming > linked data apps and that we should get together during the conference and > hack up some apps. The whole idea grew and I organized in a few days the 1st > Linked Data-a-thon which was held at ISWC2009 (www.linkeddata-a-thon.com) > The objective was to hack-up consuming linked data apps. Honestly, this was > kind of selfish of me :) I have a lot of web developer friends who I talk to > about Linked Data.. but I have no real online apps to show off the power of > Linked Data. With the apps created during the Linked Data-a-thon, I can now > go show off and tell people the types of things that can be done. During this > event, everybody learned a lot. We learned about the current status of Linked > Data, the tools, infrastructure, what it takes to do a linked data app, what > was easy, what was hard. Several participants and I got together and wrote up > a document. We have this on hold but I will now push this so we can at least > publish it as a blog post and share with the whole community our lessons > learned. Some experiences can be found on the linked data-a-thon website or > here [5]. > > In summary, everybody on this list should go build their own Consuming Linked > Data app! Hopefully before April 26... so when we present the tutorial again, > we will have much more apps to show off! > > Thanks! > > [1] http://events.linkeddata.org/iswc2008tutorial/ > [2] http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/bizer/ng4j/semwebclient/ > [3] http://squin.org > [4] http://data.semanticweb.org/conference/iswc/2009/paper/research/301/html > [5] > http://sourceforge.net/apps/wordpress/squin/2009/11/12/experiences-developing-a-simple-linked-data-based-application/ > > There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are applications > that use single, hand-picked data sources. But let's be honest, that's not > "using the linked data cloud". So, why's that? There must be a reason. Which > part of the ecosystem sucks? > > In my opinion we won't get to solve that question if we stick to "linked > data will save the planet, one day". But instead, figure out which apps > people would want to build now, and then see why it's not possible. If it > doesn't work on the small scale of some simple app, how will linked data > ever save our planet? > > Cheers, > Georgi > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM > > To: Georgi Kobilarov > > Cc: public-lod > > Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data? > > > > Hi Georgi > > Copying below the comment I just posted on ReadWriteWeb. Looks like a > > rant, but could have been worse ... I could have added that if the Web of > > Data is used to find out more cute cats images, well, I wonder what I do > on > > this boat. > > I'm amazed, not to say frightened, by the egocentrism and lack of > > imagination of the applications proposed so far. Will the Web of Data be > an > > effective tool for tackling our planet critical issues, or just another > toy for > > spoiled children of the Web? > > I would like to see the Web of Data enable people anywhere in the world to > > find out smart, sustainable and low-cost solutions to their local > development > > issues. What are the success (or failure) stories in e.g., farming, water > supply, > > energy, education, health etc. in environments similar to mine, anywhere > in > > the world? Something along the lines of http://www.wiserearth.org (of > > which data, BTW would be great to have in the Linked Data cloud). > > Best > > Bernard > > > > 2010/4/9 Georgi Kobilarov <[email protected]> > > Yesterday issued a challenge on my blog for ideas for concrete linked open > > data applications. Because talking about concrete apps helps shaping the > > roadmap for the technical questions for the linked data community ahead. > > The > > real questions, not the theoretical ones... > > > > Richard MacManus of ReadWriteWeb picked up the challenge: > > http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/web_of_data_what_would_you_ > > build.php > > > > Let's be creative about stuff we'd build with the web of data. Assume the > > Linked Data Web would be there already, what would build? > > > > Cheers, > > Georgi > > > > -- > > Georgi Kobilarov > > Uberblic Labs Berlin > > http://blog.georgikobilarov.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bernard Vatant > > Senior Consultant > > Vocabulary & Data Engineering > > Tel: +33 (0) 971 488 459 > > Mail: [email protected] > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Mondeca > > 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France > > Web: http://www.mondeca.com > > Blog: http://mondeca.wordpress.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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