Juan Sequeda wrote:
This is all great stuff. So who can now go to Twitter and tell them that their job has already been done...

We try the "many voices" approach :-)


Kingsley

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On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Chris Sizemore wrote:

        the main problem is gonna be the cognitive dissonance over
        whether a tweet is an information or non-information resource
        and how many URIs are needed to fully rep a tweet...
        so, who's gonna volunteer to publish the linked data version
        of Twitter data, a la db/wiki[pedia] ...


    Chris,

    The Twitter Linked Data Space already exists in a variety of
    fragments.

    Twitter as a medium for nano annotations (nanotations) was always
    an inevitability.

    You would be surprised as to what you would FIND at:
    http://uriburner.com/fct, on any given day, try it :-)

    As for Information Resource, in the context of the burgeoning Web
    of Linked Data, I believe Descriptor Resource is much clear. As
    for non-information resource, we have a "Referent" and its Name
    (via Generic HTTP URI).

    "Resource" overloading will always thwart comprehension of Linked
    Data.

    Links:

    1.
    
http://www.slideshare.net/kidehen/understanding-linked-data-via-eav-model-based-structured-descriptions
    -- recent presentation that is basically "Linked Data" the prequel
    via EAV Model focus (RDF as Data Model is not working, so lets
    stopping banging on that since its generally perceived as a Markup
    Language with a variety of Representation Formats)
    2. http://twitpic.com/1g02q8/full -- Referent, Identifier, and
    Description/Sense (The Data Perception Trinity)
    3. http://twitpic.com/1g03vo/full -- Referent, Identifier, and
    Descriptor/Sense Trinity as exploited via FOAF+SSL


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        best

        Cs




        On 16 Apr 2010, at 10:28 AM, "adasal" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

            twitter have a hard task as they have to take into account
            usage. The community have evolved their own, inconsistent,
            usage - for instance this tweet
            greenhaze <http://twitter.com/greenhaze> #ff
            <http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ff> big up: @_Jameslloyd
            <http://twitter.com/_Jameslloyd> @AlysFowler
            <http://twitter.com/AlysFowler> @brightgreenscot
            <http://twitter.com/brightgreenscot> @AskTheClimateQ
            <http://twitter.com/AskTheClimateQ> @faisalislam
            <http://twitter.com/faisalislam> @valerieoriordan
            <http://twitter.com/valerieoriordan> @peopleandplanet
            <http://twitter.com/peopleandplanet> @*38_degrees*
            <http://twitter.com/38_degrees> @krishgm
            <http://twitter.com/krishgm>
            compared to
            craftygreenpoet <http://twitter.com/craftygreenpoet> Quiz
            party manifesto writers, Ed Miliband, Oliver Letwin and
            Danny Alexander. Join in now http://bit.ly/9eYpSI
            *#38degrees* <http://twitter.com/search?q=%2338degrees>
            #ukelection <http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ukelection>


            Notice the #ff hash tag and the phrase 'big up:' in the
            first tweet as well as the many references (@ tags).
            So a popular sign #ff has been invented and there are
            different styles of posting, of drawing attention.
            The developers of a name space might have to take all of
            these issues into account, for instance the range of
            intentions of posters of which 'drawing attention' may
            just be one, or be a super set.  Or, alternatively, just
            create a basic name space with a few, lose, defined entities?
            I think that the problem would be to define a semantics
            that allows users to continue to invent usage.
            Or will invention be seen to peter out anyway as people
            settle on a few useful 'tools' such as the #ff hash tag?

            Of course, the other side of introducing semantics is that
            it could increase the expressive scope of what is an
            incredibly restricted format. But twitter might find that
            counter productive. The restriction, which is a product of
            a lack of common symbols that might be used knowingly to
            extend it, is the mother of invention. Often that
            invention lies in a sexual direction (or products or
            money). With regard the sexual it extends into that realm
            well because the mystery of not knowing is coupled with
            the necessity to invent 'something' on top of what is
            really a well known human area - the play of ambiguity
            suits the subject matter making it seem racier than
            perhaps it really is.

            A formalism might destroy this though?


            Best,

            Adam Saltiel


            On 16 April 2010 02:52, Juan Sequeda
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

               Hopefully everybody has heard that Twitter will release
            some
               annotation feature which will allow to add metadata to
            each tweet.

               I just read this blog
               post http://scobleizer.com/2010/04/15/twitter-annotations/

               and the following caught my attention: "There aren’t
            any rules as
               to what can be in this metadata. YET. All the devs I’ve
            talked to
               say they expect Twitter to “bless” namespaces so the
            industry
               will have one common way to describe common things"

               I'm just wondering what people here think about this.


               Juan Sequeda
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            <http://www.juansequeda.com>


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