On Nov 5, 2010, at 11:42, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote:

> David Wood wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 2010, at 08:37, Nathan wrote:
>>> Ian Davis wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> To aid discussion I create a small demo of the idea put forth in my
>>>> blog post http://iand.posterous.com/is-303-really-necessary
>>>> Here is the URI of a toucan:
>>>> http://iandavis.com/2010/303/toucan
>>> Ian, where's the demo of /toucan#frag so everybody can see that you can use 
>>> 200 OK *and* keep the graph clean? will you give it fair air time in the 
>>> (non-)debate? will you show us a comparison of the two and benefits of each?
>>> 
>>>> does this break the web  and if so, how?
>>> Of course it doesn't break the web, anybody who says that being HTTP 
>>> friendly breaks the web is clearly wrong.
>>> 
>>> Wrong question, correct question is "if I 200 OK will people think this is 
>>> a document", to which the answer is yes. You're toucan is a :Document.
>>> 
>> Agreed.  That's my problem with this approach.
> 
> Sadly your proposed 210 still has it, the true problem isn't a status code 
> thing, it's an "if I can GET it, it's a document", hence the earlier outlined 
> problems with 303 as it stands, still the same problem.

Hmm. I don't think that's so. "If I can GET it *and it returns a 200*, it is a 
document (an information resource)". Is that not so?  At least, that is in 
accordance with http-range-14. 

The "document" statement would not apply to a new status code until such a 
statement was or was not made in a spec. 

Regards,
Dave
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> 
> Best,
> 
> Nathan

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