Hi Tore,
I think your point is in line with one of Ian's motives. At the end of
the day, it's pretty obvious that a Toucan ain't going to fly down the
wire and pop out of your screen so the distinction between IR and NIR is
one that only those at the nerd end of the geek-nerd continuum are ever
going to care about. Also, it seems that Content-Location, *if*
implemented properly, does maintain the distinction. Halving the number
of HTTP requests to get the data you probably want is no bad thing.
As others have said, most folk don't see and couldn't care less about
the HTTP headers. It's that aspect that makes me wary of, but not
actually opposed to, 200 with C-L - it's easier to get away with
mistakes if most people don't see them. 303 is more open as it affects
the address bar in the browser (assuming it's visible). But, as the
scammers and spammers know very well, most people don't look at that either.
This thread has probably run long enough. I unsubscribed from the TAG
mailing list mainly because I couldn't stand any more debate about IRs
vs NIRs. So, I'm going to shut up and go with the flow (and I have to
sort out wdrs:describedby this morning too!)
Cheers
Phil.
On 08/11/2010 03:21, Tore Eriksson wrote:
Hi Phil!
Phil Archer wrote:
I know I sound like a fundamentalist in a discussion where we're trying
to find a practical, workable solution, but is a description of a toucan
a representation of a toucan? IMO, it's not. Sure, one can imagine an
HTTP response returning a very rich data stream that conveys the entire
experience of having a toucan on your desk - but the toucan ain't
actually there.
Since this distinction is, and has been for many years, debatable, why
not be pragmatic and leave this choice to the users themselves? If
someone thinks that a web page consisting of a picture and a textual
description is an adequate represenation of a Toucan, let them return
one over HTTP (as long as they are aware that the web page itself is a
different resource yada yada...). People expecting the Toucan to fly
down the wire and appear at their desk might me disappointed but most
users will probably be happy with the low-fidelity version.
Tore Eriksson
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