That certainly sounds like something we should look into. Does MSWord 97 support anything similar? Perhaps we have to consider supporting both Word97 and PDF to make the service available to all users.

Pablo Mendes wrote:
Good point, Barry. Good work, Christopher! I was wondering myself why aren't the PDFs annotated with terms derived from an ontology but using artificial modeling constructs to enable us to do reasoning with them?


On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Barry Norton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Congratulations on the move to PDF, but shouldn't these resources
    really be SOAP-resolvable?

    It's so backwards-looking merely to rely on HTTP when there's a
    whole stack of technologies you could employ here...

    Barry



    On 01/04/2011 09:23, Christopher Gutteridge wrote:

        After some heated debate after the backlash against me for my
        recent comments about PDF, I've been forced to shift to
        recommending PDF as the preferred format for the
        data.southampton.ac.uk <http://data.southampton.ac.uk> site,
        both for publishing and importing data.

        There are some issues with this and I know not every one will
        be happy with the decision; it wasn't easy to make... but on
        reflection, however, it's the right one. It is much easier for
        non programmers (the majority of people) to work with PDF
        documents and they are supported by pretty much every platform
        you can think of with a choice of tools and the benefit of
        familiarity.

        We've provided a wrapper around 4store to make PDF the default
        output mode:
        *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
        "sparql.data.southampton.ac.uk" claiming to be*
        
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        And most information URIs can now be resolved to PDF, but we
        are sticking to HTML as the default (for now)
        http://data.southampton.ac.uk/products-and-services/FreshFruit.pdf

        The full details and rationale are on our data blog
        
http://blogs.ecs.soton.ac.uk/data/2011/04/01/pdf-selected-as-interchange-format/E







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