On 18 Jun 2011, at 08:13, AzamatAbdoullaev wrote: > HS: "I gave a talk on the philosophy of the Social Web if you are interested." > http://www.slideshare.net/bblfish/philosophy-and-the-social-web-5583083 > > For the specifics of TBL's motto, "the web as a philosophical engineering", > see Harry's article: > http://www.apaonline.org/publications/newsletters/v07n2_Computers_04.aspx > Some interesting assertions: "we are not analyzing a world, we are building > it. We are not experimental philosophers, we are philosophical engineers." ; > "online intelligence is generated through complex causal interaction in an > extended brain-body-environment system"; "The Web is ...the creation and > evolution of external representations in a universal information space". > I'd extend: if the the world wide web is "a universal information space", the > semantic/ontological web is a universal knowledge space. > And we need avoid confusing four fields: philosophical engineering, > philosophy of engineering, engineering philosophy, and engineering of > philosophy.
The recent discussions on this list were very much about how to avoid making distinctions unless you have to (Just-In-Time Distinctions?) So why are the above distinctions needed? Particularly with regard to this conversation. > Azamat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Henry Story > To: adasal > Cc: Lin Clark ; Bjoern Hoehrmann ; Linked Data community ; Semantic Web > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: Hackers - Re: Schema.org considered helpful > > > On 17 Jun 2011, at 19:27, adasal wrote: > >> That said the hacker is a various beast, > > Indeed, hackers are not angels. But the people on this list should get back > to hacking or work together with open source projects to get initial minimal > working pieces embedded there. WebID is one; foaf is another, pingback, > access control, ... > Get the really simple pieces working. > >> and I wonder if this sort of thing can really be addressed without >> overarching political/ethical/idealogical concerns. It's tough. > > It all fits together really nicely. I gave a talk on the philosophy of the > Social Web if you are interested. > http://www.slideshare.net/bblfish/philosophy-and-the-social-web-5583083 > > Hackers tend to be engineers with a political attitude, so they are more > receptive to the bigger picture. But solving the big picture problem should > have an easy entry cost if we want to get it going. > > I talked to the BBC but they have limited themselves to what they will do in > the Social Web space as far as profile hosting goes. Again, I'd start small. > Facebook started in universities not that long ago. > > Henry > > > Social Web Architect > http://bblfish.net/ > > Social Web Architect http://bblfish.net/
