On 6/11/13 1:59 PM, David Booth wrote:
On 06/11/2013 12:18 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
On 6/11/13 11:56 AM, David Booth wrote:
On 06/11/2013 10:59 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
[ . . . ]  many RDF advocates
want to conflate Linked Data and RDF. This is technically wrong, and
marketing wise -- an utter disaster.

I have not heard RDF advocates conflating Linked Data and RDF, but
maybe you talk to different RDF advocates than me.

AFAICT, the vast majority of RDF advocates know that Linked Data is
RDF in which URIs are deferenceable to more RDF, but RDF is not
necessarily Linked Data, because RDF itself does not require URIs to
be dereferenceable.

David



RDF isn't the defining characteristic when speaking about Linked Data
outside the RDF community.

But RDF *is* one of Linked Data's defining characteristics, regardless of whether people outside the RDF community understand that. (And it seems to me that if they don't understand that, then we should help them to understand that, rather than perpetuating their misunderstanding.)

Of course its one of the defining characteristics. My point is that it isn't the most important characteristic when speaking to folks outside the RDF community when the subject matter is Linked Data.

This is the crux of the matter re. our disagreement. I don't see a need to inject RDF into my conversations about Linked Data when my target audience isn't interested in RDF or overtly suffers from R-D-F reflux.


It is much more palatable outside of the RDF
community to loosely couple Linked Data (the concept) and RDF (a
framework) which enables the construction of powerful Linked Data that's
endowed with *explicit* human and machine-comprehensible entity
relationships semantics.

We could define a new concept that decouples RDF from Linked Data.

We don't need to define a new concept. A concept exists, and it is loosely coupled with RDF.

Linked Data (the concept) existed before RDF. Even in TimBL's mind it clearly existed before RDF [1].

The original design of the Web includes a variety of relations, the most important one being the "describes" relation. All of the relations were denoted using links which became URI (a powerful abstraction mechanism for a variety of data related endeavors).

-10000 for your "Linked Stuff" . Sorry!

Links:

1. http://www.nic.funet.fi/index/FUNET/history/internet/w3c/Image1.gif -- that's a Linked Data way before any notion of R-D-F.

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