Hi Jim,

We are only working on classes and instances but properties now. Most of mapped classes have logical definition (use OBI properties) in OBI. We will map properties when classes/instances mapping are done. If you have any use cases that used MO properties, please let me know. I can check whether it can map to any OBI one.

Thanks,

Jie

Jim McCusker wrote:
Is this just classes, or are properties mapped as well?

Jim

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:07 PM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi All,

    I have made the mapping between MO and OBI/OBO ontologies and
    posted the mapping
    files on MGED ontology page. You can find the links in the mapping
    section of
    page
    http://mged.sourceforge.net/ontologies/MGEDontology.php

    The mapping were made based on the definition. We found it should
    be more
    accurate to map the terms based on how they were used in the
    MAGE-TAB files.
    This work is in progress. I will update the MO to OBI mapping file
    soon and
    distribute the link.

    Thanks,

    Jie



    Quoting Helen Parkinson <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Hi all,

        let me clarify. OBI is at release 1.0

        1. EFO imports parts of OBI that we need for ArrayExpress, we
        will continue to use EFO in ArrayExpress, as it has added
        terms and relations between terms that exist nowhere else -
        cell types, to cell lines for example. And it has some terms
        that are imported from e.g. the cell type ontologu EFO is an
        application ontology and will persist as we need it in our
        GUIs. You can see our paper on this here:

        http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/btq099

        2. Where we import terms from OBI - or any other ontology we
        retain their namespace as recommended by OBI foundry. As more
        terms are in OBI we will import them.

        3. My colleague Jie Zheng is in the process of mapping MO to
        OBI and when this is complete we will import more terms from
        OBI into EFO, but EFO will still be used for the foreseeable
        future by ArrayExpress. You can think of EFO as an application
        ontology, or view on OBI and many other ontologies.

        4. Where ontology terms imported into EFO have an
        authoritative source e.g. Chebi we use their namespace and
        where they are from non authoritative sources, for example
        there is no obo foundry ontology and many competing ontologies
        we assign our own ids and will continue to do so

        Happy to answer any questions.

        best regards

        Helen





        Michael Miller wrote:

            hi all,

            some comments on the minutes.

            "Possible overlaps with EFO ontology from EBI and OBI"

            if i understand correctly, EFO was created because OBI was
            not finalized
            yet and ArrayExpress at EBI is a live gene expression data
            repository and
            the curators needed an ontology they could use.  i believe
            their plan is
            to move to OBI or update EFO to reflect the relationship
            of terms in EFO
            to terms in OBI.

            "MGED may be part of OBI now"

            MGED (www.mged.org <http://www.mged.org>) is a non-profit
            organization.  What is being referred
            to as MGED on the HCLS web site is a predecessor to OBI
            which should be
            called the MGED Ontology, also referred to as MO, that
            came out of an MGED
            effort.  OBI is to replace MO.

            cheers,
            michael

            Michael Miller
            Principal Software Developer
            www.teranode.com <http://www.teranode.com>


                -----Original Message-----
                From: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                [mailto:public-semweb- <mailto:public-semweb->
                [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of M. Scott
                Marshall
                Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:31 PM
                To: HCLS
                Subject: Minutes for Scientific Discourse call

                Minutes for the Scientific Discourse call last Monday
                can be found at:
                http://www.w3.org/2010/03/22-hcls-minutes.html

                Sudeshna has distilled them nicely onto the wiki:
                
http://esw.w3.org/HCLSIG/SWANSIOC/Meetings/2010-3-22_Conference_Call

                Cheers,
                Scott










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Jim
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Jim McCusker
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Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
Yale School of Medicine
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Tetherless World Constellation
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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