Hi Frank,

Thanks for the comments, and sorry for the accidentally delayed reply.

On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 10:32 -0500, Frank Manola wrote:
> David--
> 
> A few quick comments below.
> 
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:34 AM, David Booth wrote:
> 
> > Hi, and thanks for your comments!
> > 
> > On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 12:58 +0000, RebholzSchuhmann wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> don't know how someone reads this, who does not know all these benefits 
> >> anyways. Reads as if you are selling RDF to somebody who knows half-way 
> >> the benefits of RDF.
> > 
> > Yes, we decided that we simply didn't have time to write a long document
> > that more fully explained the benefits.  (And actually, I'm not sure
> > that would have been effective anyway, as people usually need to see new
> > ideas multiple times before they understand them.)  We don't expect this
> > one comment to change anyone's mind, but our hope is that it will get
> > people to start looking in this direction.
> 
> The shortness of this is appropriate under the circumstances, but I'm
> sure you know that the points you make are somewhat more "nuanced"
> than they are made out to be here.

Yes, they sure are!  That's a big part of what makes full explanation so
difficult.

> 
> > 
> >> It would have made sense to be more precise on the privacy and security 
> >> issues. 
> > 
> > Good point, since that's such a fear-inducing topic. 
> > 
> >> Neither RDF nor XML have been developed to address privacy / 
> >> security, and either one is highly important in healthcare systems.  Do 
> >> you have even stronger arguments for privacy and security issues?
> > 
> > Not really.  The main argument is that the same techniques that are
> > currently being used can still be used.  Privacy and security issues are
> > orthogonal to information representation choices, or at least they
> > should be.  One could make arguments about the potential for using RDF
> > to reason about access permissions, but I think that would be somewhat
> > specious, because RDF could be used for that purpose even if the
> > information representation language were not RDF.
> > 
> > Perhaps one security argument we could make is that RDF reduces
> > complexity, by providing a uniform information representation language,
> > and as we all know, complexity reduces security because it increases
> > vulnerabilities.  But I don't think that's a particularly strong
> > argument either.
> > 
> > Do you have any ideas about privacy and security with respect to RDF?
> 
> It seems to me that you could be more "precise" on the privacy and security 
> issue by not introducing it with the bare assertion that "RDF is secure".  
> This has an easy counter-argument (as you note, it's orthogonal to what RDF 
> is about), and thus weakens the presentation.  What you say in explanation of 
> that bullet is fine.  Perhaps the point should be simply along the lines of 
> "RDF works with existing privacy and security mechanisms".  
> 
> On another subject, it seems to me you could avoid making such a sharp
> contrast between using RDF and using XML.  There are lots of people
> who are invested in XML, not inappropriately, and RDF is perfectly
> compatible with using XML (and an XML representation for RDF is part
> of the "standard", although that's not the only way to represent RDF
> in XML), just as using RDF doesn't mean giving up relational databases
> (as you note). It would take longer to explain the why this is true
> but, as noted earlier, that's true of other points you make in your
> response too.  

Yes, fair point.  I have a tendency to contrast XML with RDF in order to
highlight the difference in the way one needs to think about RDF as
opposed to XML.  But you're right, I should also stress that the two are
compatible.

Thanks!


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