On Apr 9, 2009, at 1:44 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:



On 4/9/09 3:56 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
On Apr 9, 2009, at 9:52 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Priestley, Mark, VF-Group
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Art, All,

If there is no use case for accessing this information (I was after why you would want to access this information because I think just saying it might be interesting to do so isn't justification enough), then I think my original proposal holds - make the signature files unavailable to the
widget at runtime.

For clarification I was not suggesting that an API should be added to the DigSig spec but rather that some of the information could be exposed via an API defined in the APIs and Events spec. But I don't think this
is necessary or worth the additional specification effort.


FWIW, I agree with Mark.

Please propose text that will address your concerns.

In the P&C spec, I would add something like:

"A user agent MUST make the digital signature available only to
implementations of the [Widgets-DigSig] specification.

I don't understand why we would want to create this type for a P&C UA.


A user agent MUST
NOT allow read access to any digital signature in the widget package at
runtime.

I think this conflates requirements for a P&C UA with the requirements for Widget [Runtime] UA. As such, I disagree with what you are trying to prescribe here and think the specs should remain silent on this (or perhaps defer this to a definition of a Widgets UA runtime model).

I still cannot understand why you want to preclude a widget from being able to access *all* of its resources. Perhaps it would be helpful if you would elaborate on the risk(s) you are trying to mitigate.

-Regards, Art Barstow


In other words, a user agent MUST NOT allow a start file, or
any other file or resource inside or outside the context of the widget
(e.g., a script or stylesheet), or API, or feature, to read any digital signature file within the widget package. At runtime, a user agent MUST make it seem as if digital signatures do not exist in the widget package by, for example, excluding them from any file listings, and not allowing
them to be accessed via a URI."

That's just some quick draft text, please feel free to change, add, or
whatever.



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