On 17 Feb 2010, at 00:19, Harry Halpin wrote:

On 17 Feb 2010, at 00:19, Harry Halpin wrote:

Yes, we over in the Social Web XG would be happy to provide some space
where efforts like this one can be done, in particular a "Social API
requirements" telecon and e-mail discussion with WebApps would be
great. Looking at the list made earlier:

"* access to contacts on a specific device: Contacts API (DAP WG) [4]"

This is obvious an important point, but we need to make sure that
Contacts API is compatible with PortableContacts/vCard, and maybe even
look at FOAF.

Or simply that there is a reasonable abstraction over different approaches to handling contacts at the app/widget level

E.g. Wave Gadgets has an extremely simplified user info model: id, display_name, thumbnail_src that would map easily onto any of the contact schemes discussed (and is surprisingly useful). By contrast, OpenSocial has a maximal scheme that encompasses all manner of bizarre attributes (SCARED_OF, HAPPIEST_WHEN etc), presumably the superset of everything the initial OS members stored about people!

" * access to relationships between contacts, etc.: no current work,
but  possible as an online service (XHR), or locally through markup
like RDFa or microdata" - I think this could be covered by some new
API.

Agreed, and we could also make sure that those in RDF have a
declarative metadata approach that is compatible with some new API,
but that users of such a API would not have to know about or use, i.e.
compatible but orthogonal.

+1

Personally, I believe that if the relevant stake-holders can be
brought on board, this would be a very worthy area for future
standardization and will do everything I can to help. Looking at our
schedule, we were hoping to have a call on this topic (i.e. W3C
Widgets and OpenSocial), March 10th (5 PM GMT) still works [1].

Yes, the 10th is still good for me too.

Would you like me to ask the Apache Shindig developers if any of them can join us?

For a general update on our work, take a look at our minutes [2] and
wiki [3]. We'll have a draft final report out by end of March, but
expect the XG to be extended by 3-6 months as we are still in the
middle of a number of conversations.

 -harry

[1]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Schedule
[2]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/
[3]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/

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