Thanks for the clarifications, Arthur!

On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Arthur Barstow <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2/6/14 9:06 PM, ext Ryosuke Niwa wrote:
>> Could chairs of the working group please clarify whether we have had a reach 
>> of consensus on the default encapsulation level in shadow DOM?
> 
> As described in [WorkMode], WebApps' asynchronous participation and edit 
> first "work modes" means group members must actively participate on the list 
> and actively file bugs and participate in bug reports. We also expect both 
> Editors and group participants to work toward obtaining broad consensus as 
> described in the charter [Decisions].

Thanks for remaining me, and in fact, we’re aware of this.   We were simply 
surprised that other participants of the working group thought there was a 
consensus on this matter because it wasn’t our understanding of the situation 
but we didn’t want to jump to any conclusion.

>> More concretely, have we _decided_ that we only want Type 1 encapsulation 
>> for the level 1 specifications of Web components instead of Type 2 or Type 1 
>> and Type 2 encapsulations as defined in Maciej's email sent out in June 
>> 29th, 2011:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/1364.html
>> 
>> I don't recall any consensus being reached about this matter.
>> 
>> In fact, 
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012OctDec/thread.html#msg312
>> (referred by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Feb/0221.html)
>> clearly shows the lack of consensus in my eyes as both Boris Zbarsky from 
>> Mozilla and Maciej Stachowiak from Apple have voiced to prefer Type 2 
>> encapsulation:
>> 
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012OctDec/0406.html
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012OctDec/0421.html
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012OctDec/0628.html
>> 
>> while representatives of Google preferring Type 1 encapsulations.
> 
> I agree the threads started by Maciej at [1364.html] and Dimitri at 
> [0312.html] do not appear to have reached broad consensus. (I am not 
> subscribed to www-style so I haven't followed those discussions.)

Great.  That is my understanding as well.

> Dimitri, Maciej, Ryosuke - is there a mutually agreeable solution here?

I think the contention here is about which types of encapsulations need to be 
supported in the level 1 specifications.  It would be great to sort it out 
somehow because it’s hard to discuss specifics unless we’ve agreed upon the use 
cases and requirements for them first.

- R. Niwa


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