> On 18 Apr 2017, at 3:14 pm, Jeremy Rowley via Public <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> What is the strained interpretation? Seems logical to me. I also disagree 
> that the energy can be better spent. This is a good exercise and shows that 
> regardless of the ballot outcome, we should fix the confusion in bylaw 
> wording.
>  
> The argument is about the process at this point is more interesting than the 
> results. We can’t maintain discipline about the process if we can’t figure 
> out what the process even is.

If it helps, I think I’ve figured out why different people are interpreting 
this differently.

A technical person will read “Public Mail List” as meaning a server, a web site 
and e-mail relay.  A non-technical person will read it as meaning a list, of 
people or e-mail addresses.

You can read the whole document with each of these meanings in your head and 
never once hit a definite contradiction, although it’s clear that different 
bits of the document were written by people with different ideas about what it 
meant; compare "The Chair will notify both the Member Mail List and the Public 
Mail List of the approval” in 2.3(i)(A) with "all such separate list-servs must 
be managed in the same fashion as the Public Mail List” in 5.3.

But ‘submitting’ something to a server is the meaning of 'submit’ that is 'to 
present or propose to another for review, consideration, or decision’ and 
allows the server to reject it, while ‘submitting’ something to a list of 
people is the other meaning of ‘submit’, ‘to deliver formally’, and you haven’t 
delivered it if it didn’t arrive.


So, you’re all right and you’re all wrong, I hope that helped!


A bigger problem we have is that we have no way to resolve this issue.  There 
has been a vote, and it either passed or it didn’t, and the bylaws are 
ambiguous on which is the case.  So I think that what we need most of all is a 
resolution mechanism.  One simple one is to say that the Chair’s ballot count 
is definitive.

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