Gerv, could we also request explicit forward-looking language? Kirk raised the 
concern about whether this applies to existing roots and intermediates. We have 
a root issued in 1997 that does not have a common name. Some interpretations 
have been discussed, but we would strongly prefer that this be written into 
this change for clear future interpretations.



If I may:



7.1.4.3. Subject Information – Root Certificates and Subordinate CA Certificates

When issuing a Root Certificate or Subordinate CA Certificate, the CA 
represents that it followed the procedure set forth in its Certificate Policy 
and/or Certification Practice Statement to verify that, as of the Certificate’s 
issuance date, all of the Subject Information was accurate and included the 
content required by this section.







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Two questions, Gerv.



1 - Does this ballot rule out “vanity CAs” – CAs with customer names in the 
subject field, even though the key is held by the root CA?  (I can provide 
further clarification, and/or examples, if necessary.

2-  What is the full current wording of Ballot 199?



Thanks,



Ben



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Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 199 - Require commonName in Root and Intermediate 
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Ballot 199 - Require commonName in Root and Intermediate Certificates

Purpose of Ballot: Section 7.1.4.3 of the BRs, which deals with Subject 
Information for Subordinate CA Certificates, currently requires only that all 
information in a Subordinate CA Certificate is accurate; it does not say what 
information is required. Some of the necessary information is required 
elsewhere in the BRs, but it is not complete - commonName is missing. If 
commonName is omitted, DN clashes can more easily occur. So this motion 
centralises that information in the obvious place, and adds a commonName 
requirement.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Patrick Tronnier of OATI and Ryan Sleevi of Google:

-- MOTION BEGINS --


Make the following changes to the Baseline Requirements:

* Delete 7.1.2.1 (e), which currently defines the Subject Information required 
in a Root CA Certificate.

* Delete 7.1.2.2 (h), which currently defines the Subject Information required 
in a Subordinate CA Certificate.

* Rename section 7.1.4.2, currently titled "Subject Information", to "Subject 
Information - Subscriber Certificates".

* Rename section 7.1.4.3, currently titled "Subject Information - Subordinate 
CA Certificates" to "Subject Information - Root Certificates and Subordinate CA 
Certificates".

* Based on the style used in 7.1.4.2.2 and the content from the now-deleted 
7.1.2.1 (e) and 7.1.2.2 (h), add the following section 7.1.4.3.1:

7.1.4.3.1 Subject Distinguished Name Fields

Certificate Field: subject:commonName (OID 2.5.4.3)
Required/Optional: Required
Contents: This field MUST be present and the contents MUST be an identifier
for the certificate such that the certificate's Name is unique across all
certificates issued by the issuing certificate.

b. Certificate Field: subject:organizationName (OID 2.5.4.10)
Required/Optional: Required
Contents: This field MUST be present and the contents MUST contain
either the Subject CA’s name or DBA as verified under Section 3.2.2.2.
The CA may include information in this field that differs slightly from
the verified name, such as common variations or abbreviations,  provided
that the CA documents the difference and any abbreviations used are
locally accepted abbreviations; e.g., if the official record shows
“Company Name Incorporated”, the CA MAY use “Company Name Inc.” or
“Company Name”.

c. Certificate Field: subject:countryName (OID: 2.5.4.6)
Required/Optional: Required
Contents: This field MUST contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code
for the country in which the CA’s place of business is located.

-- MOTION ENDS --



The procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is as 
follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with applicable 
Bylaws and IPR Agreement):



BALLOT 199

Status: Final Maintenance Guideline

Start time (23:00 UTC)

End time (23:00 UTC)

Discussion (7 to 14 days)

25 Apr

2 May

Vote for approval (7 days)

2 May

9 May

If vote approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days).

If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is rescinded and PAG to be 
created.

If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes effective at end of Review Period.

Upon filing of Review Notice by Chair

30 days after filing of Review Notice by Chair



From Bylaw 2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance 
Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the set of 
changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final 
Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of 
guidelines.  Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final 
Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed, and need 
not take into consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently, 
except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).



Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list.  A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: 
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In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor.  Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki.  Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.

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