Would like to discuss OCSP Responder certificate validity.

The BRs do not discuss how OCSP systems should be operated. It would appear 
that a short validity period would be to mitigate against a low security policy 
on the OCSP responder and keys.

In our case, we manage the OCSP responder similar to an issuing CA. The 
responder is in a secure zone and the keys are protected on a FIPS 140-2 Level 
3 HSM with M of N controls. Since the keys perform a function which the CA 
could perform, we treat the keys in the same manner as a CA. As such, if the 
OCSP key is compromised, then the CA is also compromised and CA certificate 
revocation would be required. In this case, I do not think that a 30 (or 45) 
day upper-bound validity is required. We currently use 3 years, but it could be 
argued that the validity period could be even longer.

Thanks, Bruce.

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I think 30 days is what we should target as the upper-bound, so would that be 
suggesting that we should target 15 days as a SHOULD with 30 as a MUST?

Or were you suggesting 30 as a SHOULD, 45 as a MUST, which in practice means... 
well, 45? :)

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Curt Spann 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Ryan,

Regarding delegated OCSP responder certificate validity, if 30 days is a 
desired goal (or a similar timeframe), I would recommend 45 days to allow the 
renewal to occur every 30 days, with a 15 day buffer for operational issues. 
Basically, for whatever target validity period we should add some buffer time.

Cheers,
Curt


On Apr 25, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Ryan Sleevi via Public 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi folks,

In response to various investigations about OCSP performance, operation, and 
trying to figure out how we can move to a world of more ubiquitous OCSP 
stapling, one of the things that comes up is that OCSP responses are very much 
like the pre-BR wild-west of certificates.

I've tried to capture a starting point for discussion at 
https://github.com/sleevi/cabforum-docs/pull/2/files?diff=split . I've tried to 
annotate the changes, and the reason for the changes, so that people can 
understand them, their goals, and the implications.

While I'd like to get this to the point of a Ballot, it's not quite there yet. 
In particular, it doesn't state Effective Dates, because I want to get a sense 
of the challenges that each bit may pose :)

If people find this approach useful, I'd like to also reform the CRL profile in 
a similar fashion.

There's also a lot of ways to express these requirements. I considered using a 
table approach, which I suspect some of our ETSI-audited CA members will be 
familiar with, and which I find useful, but I thought it best to keep the 
initial discussions simple and textual, and then we can make it pretty once 
we're happy with the substance.
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