Kirk,

Would the following be more meaningful to you?

        Wildcard Domain Name: A Domain Name consisting of a single asterisk 
character followed by a single full stop character (“*.”) followed by a 
Fully-Qualified Domain Name.

Feel free to drop the part is parenthesis if you don’t think it adds value.

Thanks,
Peter

> On Jun 17, 2017, at 11:14 PM, Kirk Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

> When you read your new definition, ("A Domain Name consisting of "\*." 
> (U+002A ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP) prepended to a Fully-Qualified Domain 
> Name.”), it has no meaning to me.  Is this actually necessary?  Or, if you 
> think it’s necessary, can we at least add a reference to the ISO document 
> where you found it, such as:
>  
> "A Domain Name consisting of "\*." (U+002A ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP) 
> prepended to a Fully-Qualified Domain Name in accordance with the provisions 
> of ISO/DIS 21188 section 5.12.3.”
>  
> At least a reader would have a fighting chance of knowing where the highly 
> technical definition came from.
>  
> What do others think?
>  
> From: Peter Bowen [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:22 PM
> To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: Kirk Hall <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Pre-ballot for Ballot 190
>  
> Kirk,
>  
> Thanks for putting this together.  I have one request; ISO/DIS 21188 section 
> 5.12.3 makes it clear that a wildcard name is not a Fully Qualified Domain 
> Name.  I had started to put together a set of changes to clarify this 
> independent of this ballot.  The changes are available at 
> https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/master...pzb:underscores?expand=1
>  
> <https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/master...pzb:underscores?expand=1>
>  
> Would you consider adopting a definition closer to the one I proposed ("A 
> Domain Name consisting of "\*." (U+002A ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP) prepended 
> to a Fully-Qualified Domain Name.”)?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Peter
>  
> On Jun 17, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>  
> After working with some of the chief drafters of the changes to BR 3.2.2.4 
> over the past two years, I am posting this revised Ballot 190 which does a 
> number of things:
>  
> 1.       There are changes to two Definitions, and a new definition as shown.
> 2.       The current language of the domain validation section BR 3.2.2.4 is 
> what we passed in Ballot 181, and is missing validation Methods 1-4 and 7-9 
> with minor tweaks as indicated.  We are also eliminating Method 11 
> (previously Method 7) – “any other method.”  The language you see inserted is 
> the same language as we passed in Ballot 169, except for the minor changes I 
> specifically call out.
> 3.       We clarify that once the requested FQDN has been verified using a 
> given validation method, the CA may also issue certificates for higher level 
> domains that end in the validated FQDN.
> 4.       Finally, in response to the discussion we have had on whether a 
> change to a validation method means all prior validations using that method 
> are no longer valid, we have made some changes.  In essence, the BRs would 
> not state that data, documents, and prior validations can be reused for the 
> permitted reuse period under BR 4.2.1, unless the Forum specifically requires 
> revalidation in a ballot.
>  
> I have attached the pre-ballot in two formats: (a) one in “track changes” 
> from Ballot 181 and including comments (this will be the real ballot once we 
> finish discussion and the comments are removed), and (b) the other showing 
> how BR 3.2.2.4 and 4.2.1 plus the definitions will read if Ballot 190 is 
> adopted.  I am sending the documents in both Word and pdf formats.
>  
> We can discuss the ballot this week and on Thursday at the F2F meeting.  Next 
> week, we can then file the ballot and start the discussion period (7 days), 
> followed by the voting period.
>  
> One request – if you have comments or edits to suggest, please be VERY clear. 
>  This is a very complex ballot, and we will make the most progress if we 
> avoid misunderstanding and talking past each other.  Also, if you don’t like 
> a section, please suggest specific alternate wording for people to consider.
> <Ballot 190 (6-17-2017) showing changes from Ballot 181.docx><Ballot 190 
> (6-17-2017) showing changes from Ballot 181.pdf><Ballot 190 (6-17-2017) if 
> all changes adopted.docx><Ballot 190 (6-17-2017) if all changes 
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