I like that. We will add to the ballot if no one objects.
From: Peter Bowen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 6:53 AM
To: Kirk Hall <[email protected]>
Cc: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Pre-ballot for Ballot 190
Kirk,
Would the following be more meaningful to you?
Wildcard Domain Name: A Domain Name consisting of a single asterisk
character followed by a single full stop character (“*.”) followed by a
Fully-Qualified Domain Name.
Feel free to drop the part is parenthesis if you don’t think it adds value.
Thanks,
Peter
On Jun 17, 2017, at 11:14 PM, Kirk Hall
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
When you read your new definition, ("A Domain Name consisting of "\*." (U+002A
ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP) prepended to a Fully-Qualified Domain Name.”), it
has no meaning to me. Is this actually necessary? Or, if you think it’s
necessary, can we at least add a reference to the ISO document where you found
it, such as:
"A Domain Name consisting of "\*." (U+002A ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP)
prepended to a Fully-Qualified Domain Name in accordance with the provisions of
ISO/DIS 21188 section 5.12.3.”
At least a reader would have a fighting chance of knowing where the highly
technical definition came from.
What do others think?
From: Peter Bowen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:22 PM
To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Kirk Hall
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Pre-ballot for Ballot 190
Kirk,
Thanks for putting this together. I have one request; ISO/DIS 21188 section
5.12.3 makes it clear that a wildcard name is not a Fully Qualified Domain
Name. I had started to put together a set of changes to clarify this
independent of this ballot. The changes are available at
https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/master...pzb:underscores?expand=1
Would you consider adopting a definition closer to the one I proposed ("A
Domain Name consisting of "\*." (U+002A ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP) prepended
to a Fully-Qualified Domain Name.”)?
Thanks,
Peter
On Jun 17, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Kirk Hall via Public
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
After working with some of the chief drafters of the changes to BR 3.2.2.4 over
the past two years, I am posting this revised Ballot 190 which does a number of
things:
1. There are changes to two Definitions, and a new definition as shown.
2. The current language of the domain validation section BR 3.2.2.4 is
what we passed in Ballot 181, and is missing validation Methods 1-4 and 7-9
with minor tweaks as indicated. We are also eliminating Method 11 (previously
Method 7) – “any other method.” The language you see inserted is the same
language as we passed in Ballot 169, except for the minor changes I
specifically call out.
3. We clarify that once the requested FQDN has been verified using a
given validation method, the CA may also issue certificates for higher level
domains that end in the validated FQDN.
4. Finally, in response to the discussion we have had on whether a change
to a validation method means all prior validations using that method are no
longer valid, we have made some changes. In essence, the BRs would not state
that data, documents, and prior validations can be reused for the permitted
reuse period under BR 4.2.1, unless the Forum specifically requires
revalidation in a ballot.
I have attached the pre-ballot in two formats: (a) one in “track changes” from
Ballot 181 and including comments (this will be the real ballot once we finish
discussion and the comments are removed), and (b) the other showing how BR
3.2.2.4 and 4.2.1 plus the definitions will read if Ballot 190 is adopted. I
am sending the documents in both Word and pdf formats.
We can discuss the ballot this week and on Thursday at the F2F meeting. Next
week, we can then file the ballot and start the discussion period (7 days),
followed by the voting period.
One request – if you have comments or edits to suggest, please be VERY clear.
This is a very complex ballot, and we will make the most progress if we avoid
misunderstanding and talking past each other. Also, if you don’t like a
section, please suggest specific alternate wording for people to consider.
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