To my knowledge, a common browser UI has not been discussed in the CAB Forum 
before (although as I recall, it was always expected that a new EV UI would be 
created by browsers during the years we were drafting the EV Guidelines in the 
Forum).

I would point out that the array of browser UIs today is so mixed up that no 
user can really understand what the UIs mean – see link.

https://casecurity.org/browser-ui-security-indicators/

Plus, these indicators are constantly changing with no apparent guiding theory, 
so even if you understand the UIs today, you will probably not understand them 
tomorrow.  And there has been no real user education for years.  For these 
reasons, a common UI across browsers (and some stability in design) would be 
very welcome.

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To: Kirk Hall <[email protected]>; CA/Browser Forum Public 
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Cc: Mike Reilly (WDG) <[email protected]>; Nate Santiago 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] CABForum Teleconference Proposed Topic: Common 
Browser UI Security Indicators

To clarify, I was requesting to discuss if common browser UI should be 
discussed at the CAB Forum and if it had been discussed in the past what was 
the outcome of those discussions. Currently we are not looking to participate 
in a browser UI working group.

Cheers,
Curt


On Jul 13, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Kirk Hall via Public 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Sounds good.  Our next teleconference is a week from today, and I’ll schedule a 
block of time.

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Cc: Nate Santiago <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] CABForum Teleconference Proposed Topic: Common 
Browser UI Security Indicators

Hi Kirk.  Curt Spann (Apple) and I would like some time on the next CABF 
teleconference to talk about coordinating browser UI security indicators for 
TLS/SSL certs.  We have an interest in this area, and would like feedback from 
other browsers and CAs on the following:


  1.  Should browsers work toward a common browser UI security indicators 
related to certificates?
  2.  With the move to 100% encryption, what indicator should DV, OV, and EV 
sites receive?
  3.  Should we set up a new Browser UI Working Group within the Forum under 
the new governance structure to work on this topic?

Can we block out some time on the next call for this topic?  Thanks, Mike

Mike Reilly | Principal PM Lead, Risk Management & Crypto Ecosystem
Windows and Devices Group (WDG) InfoSec
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