The doc you just cited is based on the BRs and Network Security
requirements, so yes, as the BR and Network Security requirements change,
we generally see WebTrust change ;)

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Tronnier via Public <
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> Thanks Eric.
>
>
>
> I would also like to point out that WEBTRUST PRINCIPLES AND
> CRITERIA FOR CERTIFICATION AUTHORITIES –SSLBASELINE WITH NETWORK SECURITY
> Version 2.3, which was updated in February 2018, (http://www.webtrust.org/
> principles-and-criteria/docs/item85437.PDF) requires passwords to be
> changed every 3 months.  Hopefully webTrust will adjust to the NIST
> guidelines also.
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> Thanks
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> With kind regards,
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> *From:* Eric Mill [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2018 10:43 AM
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> *Cc:* Patrick Tronnier <[email protected]>
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> FedRAMP has published guidance about the new NIST password/identity
> guidelines:
>
> https://www.fedramp.gov/assets/resources/documents/CSP_Digital_Identity_
> Requirements.pdf
>
>
>
> They note that the formal baseline is still not updated, but encourage
> folks to follow NIST's new guidance regardless:
>
>
>
> NOTE: At the time of this document’s publication, FedRAMP Moderate and
> High controls IA-5 (g)
>
> and IA-5 (1) (a,d) are known to be more restrictive than the new password
> requirements in 800-
>
> 63B, AAL2 and AAL3 respectively. FedRAMP recommends Agency AOs accept
> compliance with
>
> NIST’s guidance that is most up-to-date and consistent with current cyber
> security threats. This
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> may be done using an implementation status of “Alternative Implementation.”
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>
>
> I also confirmed with the FedRAMP program that the baseline is expected to
> be updated to match NIST's SP 800-63, and thus avoid the need for any
> special acceptance. But the point is that FedRAMP is not an obstacle to
> dropping password rotation -- they are expecting service providers to
> follow NIST's guidance and drop it.
>
>
>
> -- Eric
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Geoff Keating via Public <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> > On May 15, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Patrick Tronnier via Public <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I want to make it clear that OATI agrees with the minimum 2 year
> password period as the more secure route. It is FedRAMP and other standards
> which don’t. J
>
> I've been looking at FedRAMP, because I was surprised they'd be putting
> out guidelines that conflict with NIST guidelines, and I can't find this
> requirement; for the 'high security controls' (https://www.fedramp.gov/
> assets/resources/documents/FedRAMP_High_Security_Controls.xlsx), it does
> require you have a minimum and maximum password lifetime in IA-05(1)(d),
> but it says the actual limits are organization-defined, so you can ask the
> organization to set the maximum lifetime to, say, 3 years.
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