I'm having trouble finding a clear summary of the question from the message forwarded.
Could you helpfully re-state it? It sounds like the question is "Can we join the Forum without joining a CWG" - but that may not be a correct understanding. On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 1:08 PM Kirk Hall via Public <[email protected]> wrote: > That is my assumption. First, they want to understand what our Bylaws > require for participation as a Certificate Consumer, and whether they would > qualify. That’s what tomorrow’s discussion will be about. > > > > *From:* Ryan Sleevi [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:05 AM > *To:* Kirk Hall <[email protected]>; CABFPub < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Membership Application of Sony > > > > Kirk, > > > > Can you clarify - are they applying for membership of a CWG as well? > > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:58 PM Kirk Hall via Public <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Sony has contacted the Forum about joining as a browser member. Sony has > asked a question about the membership requirements for browsers in our > Bylaws. We will discuss on our call tomorrow. > > > > To assist in our discussion tomorrow, I am sending out the relevant > portions of our Bylaws on browser membership requirements along with the > existing discussion with Sony. (Browser is now called Certificate Consumer > in our most recent update to the Bylaws.) > > > > *Bylaw 2.1 Qualifying for Forum Membership* > > > > (a) All Forum members must *** meet at least one of the following > criteria: *** > > > > (*3) Certificate Consumer: The member organization produces a software > product, such as a browser, intended for use by the general public for > relying upon certificates and is a member of a CWG [Chartered Working > Group, such as the new Server Certificate Working Group].* > > > > (b) Applicants should supply the following information: > > (1) Confirmation that the applicant satisfies at least one of the > membership criteria (and if it satisfies more than one, indication of the > single category under which the applicant wishes to apply). > > (2) The organization name, as you wish it to appear on the Forum Web site > and in official Forum documents. > > (3) URL of the applicant's main Web site. > > (4) Names and email addresses of employees who will participate in the > Forum mail list. > > (5) Emergency contact information for security issues related to > certificate trust. > > > > > > *From:* Questions [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of * > [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 8:59 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfquest] Membership Application of Sony > > > > Hi Dean, > > > > Thanks for the quick reply. Limiting the discussion to televisions (the > question at-hand), they’re based on Android TV then with Sony software on > top. So, “does Sony make the software” is yes and no. > > > > But we **do** write the software that does the cryptographic signature > validation. > > > > I hope that answers your question. > > > > Adam > > > > Adam Goldberg > > Director, Technical Standards > > Technology Standards Office > > Sony Electronics, Inc. > > 202-601-4130 (tel) > > 571-363-9778 (mobile) > > > > *From:* Dean Coclin [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:44 AM > *To:* Goldberg, Adam <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: Membership Application of Sony > > > > Hello Adam, > > > > Thank you for contacting the CA/B Forum. This question will have to be > discussed by the members. I will ask the chair to put it on the agenda for > the next meeting which is in 1 week. > > Perhaps you can help clarify by stating whether or not Sony makes the > underlying software that runs in the hardware device made by Sony? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Dean Coclin > > for the CA/B Forum > > > > *From:* Questions [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *[email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 8:10 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [cabfquest] Membership Application of Sony > > > > Hi, > > > > Can you please describe the bylaw requirement of “produces a software > product, such as a browser, intended for use by the general public for > relying upon certificates and is a member of a CWG”? > > > > If we produce a hardware product which includes software which relies upon > (public root) certificates, does that meet the definition of “produces a > software product”? > > > > If our situation fits within the definition of a “Certificate Consumer > organization”, I will follow-up with a complete application (following > legal review of the IPR documents). > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Adam Goldberg > > Director, Technical Standards > > Technology Standards Office > > Sony Electronics, Inc. > > 202-601-4130 (tel) > > 571-363-9778 (mobile) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > [email protected] > https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > [email protected] > https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public >
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