Tim,
If Internationalized Email Address support is desired, then for completeness, 
“valid” should be more concretely defined. The reason why I think merely 
stating “valid” is insufficient is that there are multiple ways to encode an 
email address, and inconsistent handling of these values across CA 
implementations may create vulnerabilities where attackers can obtain 
certificates for domains that they don’t control.

As an example, a “valid” email address could be interpreted as the 
scheme-specific part of a mailto: URL (eg, the 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> in mailto:[email protected]). The CAA 
“contact” property tag specifies a mailto: URL, so it reasonable to think that 
the TXT record does as well. URI-encoding of the scheme-specific part (see RFC 
6068, section 2 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6068#section-2) differs from an 
email address encoded as specified in RFC 6532, section 3.2 
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6532#section-3.2). Given the differences 
between these encodings, it would be possible for an attacker to find a CA that 
uses a different encoding than the CA that the domain owner used and setup a 
mailbox such that they receive the DV email when requesting a certificate for 
the victim domain from the other CA.

For this reason, I think that explicitly mandating “a RFC 6532-compliant email 
address” would be prudent. Or alternatively, change the TXT record to specify a 
mailto: URL so that it is consistent with the CAA syntax.

Thanks,
Corey


From: Tim Hollebeek <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 10:59 AM
To: Corey Bonnell <[email protected]>, CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG 
Public Discussion List <[email protected]>, CA/Browser Forum Public 
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Subject: RE: [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC4 - email and CAA CONTACT

I’d like not to make it more complicated than necessary, but if there are 
useful clarifications you can suggest about how better to define “valid”, I’m 
all ears.

For the particular concern you mentioned, it seems clear to me that an 
Internationalized Email Address is in fact a valid email address for method 14 
(assuming it is not invalid for some other reason).

-Tim

From: Corey Bonnell <[email protected]>
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Hi Tim,
I think this updated text is fine (with one caveat about raw addresses; see 
below), pending changing “domain being validated” to “Authorization Domain 
Name” to be consistent with other changes of this usage in the ballot.

If the TXT record data is merely the raw email address (as opposed to a mailto: 
URL), it would be good to specify more concretely what “valid” means. This is 
especially relevant in regard to Internationalized Email Addresses (and the 
potential can of worms that entails) and whether or not they’re considered 
“valid” for method 14.

Thanks,
Corey

From: Tim Hollebeek 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:57 PM
To: Corey Bonnell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, CA/B 
Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, CA/Browser 
Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC4 - email and CAA CONTACT

Corey,

Upon further review, I believe the domain-authorization-email is a relic of a 
previous proposal, and could be safely removed.

The DNS TXT record MUST be placed on the "_caa_contact_email" subdomain of the 
domain being validated.  The entire RDATA value of the "_caa_contact_email" 
record MUST be a valid email address, with no additional padding or structure, 
or it cannot be used.

?

-Tim

From: Corey Bonnell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 1:44 PM
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Given that the entire RDATA is the email address, I don’t see how “The DNS 
record MUST be named "domain-authorization-email"” is applicable here, as there 
is nowhere in the RDATA to specify the name.

Also, is the RDATA a mailto: URL (as in the CAA record), or is it a plain email 
address? I’d imagine the former would be preferable for parity with the CAA 
syntax as well as reuse of the “_caa_contact” attribute leaf for phone numbers.

Thanks,
Corey

From: Tim Hollebeek 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:19 PM
To: Corey Bonnell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, CA/B 
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Subject: RE: [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC4 - email and CAA CONTACT

I expect the email address would be the entirety of the RDATA for the RR, with 
no additional formatting.  I can make that explicit if you think it would be 
helpful.

-Tim

From: Corey Bonnell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Hi Tim,
Can you provide an example of how a TXT record would be formatted to convey the 
email address (as was done for the CAA records)? It’s not clear to me based on 
the description given.

Thanks,

Corey Bonnell
Senior Software Engineer

Trustwave | SMART SECURITY ON DEMAND
https://www.trustwave.com<http://www.trustwave.com/>

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Ballot SC4: CAA Contact Property and Associated E-mail Validation Methods
Purpose of Ballot: Increasingly, contact information is not available in WHOIS 
due to concerns about potential GDPR violations.  This ballot specifies a 
method by which domain holders can publish their contact information via DNS, 
and how CAs can use that information for validating domain control.
The following motion has been proposed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and 
endorsed by Bruce Morton of Entrust and Doug Beattie of GlobalSign.
--- MOTION BEGINS ---
This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management 
of Publicly-Trusted Certificates” as follows, based on Version 1.6.0:
Add Section 3.2.2.4.13: Domain Owner Email in CAA
Confirm the Applicant's control over the FQDN by (i) sending an email to a DNS 
domain name holder, (ii) including a Random Value in the email, and (iii) 
receiving a confirming response utilizing the Random Value. The CA MUST send 
the email to an email address found in the CAA Contact property record of the 
Authorization Domain Name as defined in Appendix B.

Each email MAY confirm control of multiple FQDNs, provided the email address 
used is a DNS contact email address for each ADN being validated.

The Random Value SHALL be unique in each email. The email MAY be re-sent in its 
entirety, including the re-use of the Random Value, provided that its entire 
contents and recipient SHALL remain unchanged. The Random Value SHALL remain 
valid for use in a confirming response for no more than 30 days from its 
creation. The CPS MAY specify a shorter validity period for Random Values.

Note: Once the FQDN has been validated using this method, the CA MAY also issue 
Certificates for other FQDNs that end with all the labels of the validated 
FQDN. This method is suitable for validating Wildcard Domain Names.
Add Section 3.2.2.4.14: Domain Owner Email published in TXT record

Confirm the Applicant's control over the FQDN by (i) sending an email to a DNS 
domain name holder, (ii) including a Random Value in the email, and (iii) 
receiving a confirming response utilizing the Random Value. The CA MUST send 
the email to an email address found in the DNS TXT record of the Authorization 
Domain Name in the format defined in Appendix B.

Each email MAY confirm control of multiple FQDNs, provided the email address 
used is a DNS contact email address for each ADN being validated.
The Random Value SHALL be unique in each email. The email MAY be re-sent in its 
entirety, including the re-use of the Random Value, provided that its entire 
contents and recipient SHALL remain unchanged. The Random Value SHALL remain 
valid for use in a confirming response for no more than 30 days from its 
creation. The CPS MAY specify a shorter validity period for Random Values.

Note: Once the FQDN has been validated using this method, the CA MAY also issue 
Certificates for other FQDNs that end with all the labels of the validated 
FQDN. This method is suitable for validating Wildcard Domain Names.

Add Appendix B: CAA Contact Tag
The syntax for the contact property is similar to the iodef property.  It 
allows domain owners to publish contact information in DNS in addition to WHOIS 
for the purpose of validating domain control.
CAA contact Property

contact <URL> :  The contact property entry specifies the authorized means of 
contacting the holder of the domain or another party who is authorized to 
approve issuance of certificates for the domain.

The contact property specifies a means of contacting the domain holder, or 
another party that is authorized to approve issuance of certificates for the 
domain in question.
The contact property takes a URL as its parameter.  The following URL scheme 
type SHOULD be implemented:
mailto: An SMTP email address where the domain holder or other authorized party 
can be contacted.

Schemes other than "mailto:"; MUST NOT be used.

The following is an example where the holder of the domain specified the 
contact property using an email address.

$ORIGIN 
example.com<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=yLPp2wo1WgGIYigK9OLlFaUXGubLU6Sxlag77nB0Rg&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fexample%2ecom>
.              CAA 0 issue “ca.example.net”
.              CAA 0 contact “mailto:[email protected]

Support for Legacy Systems

Some systems still do not have sufficient support for CAA records.  To allow 
users of those systems to specify contact information, a legacy format using 
text records is allowed.

The DNS TXT record MUST be placed on the "_caa_contact" subdomain of the domain 
being validated.  The DNS record MUST be named "domain-authorization-email".  
The value of "domain-authorization-email" MUST contain a valid email address, 
or it cannot be used.

--- MOTION ENDS ---
*** WARNING ***: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.  THE REDLINE BELOW IS NOT THE OFFICIAL 
VERSION OF THE CHANGES (CABF Bylaws, Section 2.4(a)):

A comparison of the changes can be found at: 
https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/Ballot-SC4---CAA-CONTACT-email?diff=unified&expand=1<https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=yLPp2wo1WgGIYigK9OLlFaUXGubLU6Sxlfs35CVxQA&s=5&u=https%3a%2f%2fgithub%2ecom%2fcabforum%2fdocuments%2fcompare%2fBallot-SC4---CAA-CONTACT-email%3fdiff%3dunified%26amp%3bexpand%3d1>
The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:
Discussion (7+ days)
Start Time: 2018-08-03 11:50 Eastern
End Time: Not before 2018-08-10 11:50 Eastern
Vote for approval (7 days)
Start Time: TBD
End Time: TBD
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