Ryan – I have said I will add a Proposer and Endorsers to the two ballots, if 
there are any.  That would then make the ballots the way you want them to be.

Is Google willing to be a Proposer or Endorser on the two ballots?  Get us 
started, please.

From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:22 AM
To: Kirk Hall <[email protected]>
Cc: CABFPub <[email protected]>; Tim Hollebeek <[email protected]>; 
Wayne Thayer <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC5: Election of Server Certificate 
Working Group Vice Chair

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 12:20 PM Kirk Hall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My arguments are found here:

https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2018-September/014069.html

Ryan, you can end this discussion by saying that Google will be the Proposer on 
the two ballots, Ballot Forum-5 and Ballot SC-5.  Will Google be the Proposer 
of the two Ballots?

I don't think we'd want to endorse the behaviour of a Chair who consistently, 
throughout the Chairship, endorses a position of "I'm going to do it my way so 
deal with it.". That's not productive or responsible chairship, and it's 
repeated occurrence - from Ballot 190 to present - is a good reason to 
appreciate a change in leadership and, hopefully, leadership styles.

Google didn’t even vote on our last ballot SC8 for SCWG Chair – I’m not sure 
why you are so interested in this issue.

Why is your understanding of our interest in that ballot relevant to our 
interest in ensuring the Bylaws are faithfully carried out? It would seem our 
interest in the latter would be clear regardless.
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