Thanks for the info! I look forward to a future where at least some
aspects, like action items, are machine readable and automatically tracked!

Aaron

On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 7:28 AM Chris Clements <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Aaron,
>
> Which led me to wonder why this particular field is required. The only
>> explanation that springs to my mind is that the incident reports are being
>> consumed by automation of some form.
>
>
> We’re not aware of any automation currently consuming these incident
> reports.
>
> If the purpose of the incident report templates is to allow reports to be
>> parsed by machines, it would be useful to state that up-front so that
>> reporters know how strictly to abide by the template. If reports are not
>> intended to be machine-readable, then I'm curious as to the purpose of that
>> Unique ID field.
>
>
> While having these reports be machine-readable is one of our long-term
> goals, we’ve not yet begun that journey in earnest. Right now, the CA Owner
> CCADB unique ID field intends to allow us to better correlate the CA Owner
> and its CCADB records in anticipation of potential future CCADB
> integration. This future integration may also result in incident reports
> currently disclosed to Bugzilla migrating to a new platform designed
> specifically with our community’s needs in mind.
>
> Also, we’ve encountered instances of similar CA Owner names, yet different
> unique IDs in the CCADB (e.g., “Saudi Data and Artificial Intelligence
> Authority (SDAIA)” CCADB Unique ID: A011197
> <https://ccadb.my.site.com/s/account/0018Z000037IJiYQAW/saudi-data-and-artificial-intelligence-authority-sdaia>
> compared to “Government of Saudi Arabia, NIC (SDAIA)” CCADB Unique ID:
> A002584
> <https://ccadb.my.site.com/s/account/001o000000rGWl9AAG/government-of-saudi-arabia-nic-sdaia>).
> Use of the CCADB Unique ID field helps further disambiguate the involved CA
> Owners while promoting clean-up of CCADB data.
>
> We appreciate the curiosity!
> -Chris, on behalf of the CCADB Steering Committee
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 2:33 PM 'Aaron Gable' via CCADB Public <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On a recent incident report
>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1954861#c6>, it was
>> pointed out to me that the "CA Owner CCADB unique ID" field in incident
>> reports is supposed to be the six-digit number which CCADB uses internally
>> to identify CA owners.
>>
>> I freely admit that I have never noticed this CCADB field before. Since I
>> wasn't even aware of its existence, I naively assumed that the field in the
>> incident report was referring to the "CA Owner Name", i.e. the same value
>> requested in other CCADB submissions such as the Self-Audit Spreadsheet.
>>
>> Which led me to wonder why this particular field is required. The only
>> explanation that springs to my mind is that the incident reports are being
>> consumed by automation of some form.
>>
>> But if incident reports are being consumed by automation, that raises a
>> whole host of other questions. For example, in that same incident report,
>> we listed some of our action items as "Not Started", which is not one of
>> the four officially-sanctioned values ("Ongoing", "Complete", "Delayed", or
>> "Canceled"). Are those action item states also being parsed by machine
>> automation? Does it mess up the automation to use a different status, or
>> reorder the columns of a table, or format some text as an H4 instead of
>> simply bold?
>>
>> If the purpose of the incident report templates is to allow reports to be
>> parsed by machines, it would be useful to state that up-front so that
>> reporters know how strictly to abide by the template. If reports are not
>> intended to be machine-readable, then I'm curious as to the purpose of that
>> Unique ID field.
>>
>> Thanks for indulging my curiosity,
>> Aaron
>>
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