I will talk to the photographer. Seems odd inded. Dimi
2016-03-30 9:42 GMT+02:00 Jan Weisensee <[email protected]>: > Thanks Dimi for this awful story. It sounds to me as if it really depends > on the legal basis the house owners have used. Perhaps when contacting the > photographers you can get hold of one of those cease and desist letters, > which might give us additional insight... > > Regards, > Jan > > On Tue, 2016-03-29 at 23:32 +0300, Raul Veede wrote: > > Unless they specifically bought the rights, owners ain't no authors. > Hence, this is not a legal problem, it is a problem of malevolent human > stupidity. > > Of course, one point for commercial FoP is that it is less apt for misuse > than NC FoP, and we should stress that. But it does not abolish neither bad > faith nor ignorance (which, as we know, is the root of suffering). So, we > can't really say FoP would avoid such cases. > > Raul > On 29 Mar 2016 23:24, "L.Gelauff" <[email protected]> wrote: > > What isn't clear to me here: are they actually copyright holders to the > house? (i.e., the architect or its heirs?) A quick search suggests that Gerogi > Fingov died in 1944. So maybe I'm missing something, but what is the legal > basis for the cease and desist order? Because if it is privacy (or > something related), it may be less ideal for us? > > Best > Lodewijk > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > This couldn't have been a better example [1] if we had dreamt it up it > ourselves. I know most people's Bulgarian on this list is limited, so I'll > try to provide the moments: > > > - An old house by fmaous Bulgarian turn-of-the-century architect > Gerogi Fingov in the centre of Sofia is slowly decaying. > - The house is categorised as a landmark and protected. > - The owners are suspected want the house break down beyond repair, so > it becomes dnagerous for the public and they are allowed to tear it down > and build a highrise. (Common scheme in Bulgaria the past two decades, but > that's a different issue.) > - The municipality is not getting active, at least not effectively, > and there is a public outcry abou this. Corruption is often mentioned. > (This too has happened many times in Sofia, but is also a different issue.) > - People start taking photographs of the house and posting them on > social media, newspaper articles are written. There is a campaign to save > this and other landmarks. > - The owners of the house send a cease-and-deist letter to one of the > more famous photographers whose pictures have been most commonly used in > media and online to take down all the pictures of the house. > - He complies, saying that he has no time/energy/resources for this > particular struggle. > > Theoretically at least news outlets could claim the "news" exception, but > everyone else could now fear to get a notice if they continue with the > campaign to save architectural landmarks. > > I will contact the photographer. > > Cheers, > Dimi > > [1] > http://www.dnevnik.bg/bulgaria/2016/03/25/2730238_fotograf_e_zaplashen_sus_sud_da_ne_pokazva_snimki_ot/?ref=email_mynews > > > > > > [1] > http://www.dnevnik.bg/bulgaria/2016/03/25/2730238_fotograf_e_zaplashen_sus_sud_da_ne_pokazva_snimki_ot/?ref=email_mynews > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing > [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > > -- > Get my PGP public key at https://keybase.io/janweisensee <http://here> > XMPP Chat: [email protected] > Tox ID 4522 CD10 A395 D810 1708 F3C0 B929 9AD9 882B 82FF B165 10CB F4F6 > D5F6 AB6E 6517 E4CE 9D76 0934 > > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > >
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