Very interesting story, though. Thanks for paraphrasing, Dimi! Michael 2016-03-30 10:42 GMT+02:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < [email protected]>:
> I will talk to the photographer. Seems odd inded. > > Dimi > > 2016-03-30 9:42 GMT+02:00 Jan Weisensee <[email protected]>: > >> Thanks Dimi for this awful story. It sounds to me as if it really depends >> on the legal basis the house owners have used. Perhaps when contacting the >> photographers you can get hold of one of those cease and desist letters, >> which might give us additional insight... >> >> Regards, >> Jan >> >> On Tue, 2016-03-29 at 23:32 +0300, Raul Veede wrote: >> >> Unless they specifically bought the rights, owners ain't no authors. >> Hence, this is not a legal problem, it is a problem of malevolent human >> stupidity. >> >> Of course, one point for commercial FoP is that it is less apt for misuse >> than NC FoP, and we should stress that. But it does not abolish neither bad >> faith nor ignorance (which, as we know, is the root of suffering). So, we >> can't really say FoP would avoid such cases. >> >> Raul >> On 29 Mar 2016 23:24, "L.Gelauff" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What isn't clear to me here: are they actually copyright holders to the >> house? (i.e., the architect or its heirs?) A quick search suggests that >> Gerogi >> Fingov died in 1944. So maybe I'm missing something, but what is the legal >> basis for the cease and desist order? Because if it is privacy (or >> something related), it may be less ideal for us? >> >> Best >> Lodewijk >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> This couldn't have been a better example [1] if we had dreamt it up it >> ourselves. I know most people's Bulgarian on this list is limited, so I'll >> try to provide the moments: >> >> >> - An old house by fmaous Bulgarian turn-of-the-century architect >> Gerogi Fingov in the centre of Sofia is slowly decaying. >> - The house is categorised as a landmark and protected. >> - The owners are suspected want the house break down beyond repair, >> so it becomes dnagerous for the public and they are allowed to tear it >> down >> and build a highrise. (Common scheme in Bulgaria the past two decades, but >> that's a different issue.) >> - The municipality is not getting active, at least not effectively, >> and there is a public outcry abou this. Corruption is often mentioned. >> (This too has happened many times in Sofia, but is also a different >> issue.) >> - People start taking photographs of the house and posting them on >> social media, newspaper articles are written. There is a campaign to save >> this and other landmarks. >> - The owners of the house send a cease-and-deist letter to one of >> the more famous photographers whose pictures have been most commonly used >> in media and online to take down all the pictures of the house. >> - He complies, saying that he has no time/energy/resources for this >> particular struggle. >> >> Theoretically at least news outlets could claim the "news" exception, but >> everyone else could now fear to get a notice if they continue with the >> campaign to save architectural landmarks. >> >> I will contact the photographer. >> >> Cheers, >> Dimi >> >> [1] >> http://www.dnevnik.bg/bulgaria/2016/03/25/2730238_fotograf_e_zaplashen_sus_sud_da_ne_pokazva_snimki_ot/?ref=email_mynews >> >> >> >> >> >> [1] >> http://www.dnevnik.bg/bulgaria/2016/03/25/2730238_fotograf_e_zaplashen_sus_sud_da_ne_pokazva_snimki_ot/?ref=email_mynews >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> >> -- >> Get my PGP public key at https://keybase.io/janweisensee <http://here> >> XMPP Chat: [email protected] >> Tox ID 4522 CD10 A395 D810 1708 F3C0 B929 9AD9 882B 82FF B165 10CB F4F6 >> D5F6 AB6E 6517 E4CE 9D76 0934 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > > -- Leiter Kommunikation Head of Communications Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. 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