Yup, it also exists in Dutch law, although I'm uncertain if the phrasing is
exactly the same. The result of it, was I think only one case where was
decided in favour of the author (architect): the Erasmus bridge in
Rotterdam. Someone tried to take a cutout of the bridge (the shape) and use
it as a logo. That was not a permitted use according to the judges, as it
was explicitely taking everything out of context. Also, a piece of art in
the public space (a couch in Enschede) was used in the design of a
newspaper, which was also not permitted. Apparently, it is also not
permitted to make a 'compilation of all works of a single architect'.

So yeah, exceptions make life tough - but some might be acceptable if that
makes the change in law more likely to actually happen.

Lodewijk

2016-05-12 12:13 GMT+02:00 Raul Veede <[email protected]>:

> Whenever there'll be a discussion of the actual wording for FoP in EU, I'd
> say it'd be best if we explained why it is a very, very bad idea to include
> any such foggy clauses - this "natural environment", references to the
> 3-step test, the German-Czech exception, anything "fair", estimations by
> the amount of creativeness in a work, etc. The only positive effect of such
> clauses is they provide some emotional comfort to their supporters, while
> they also bring legal unclarity, court battles and repressed creative
> initiative for decades to come. Good laws are as clear and concise as
> possible.
>
> Raul
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it is full FoP for architecture and sculpture. The only restriction
>> being that images should be permanent in public places and that they need
>> to be "in their natural environment". This exists also in Dutch law if I am
>> not mistaken. Not sure how to interpret it exactly - I guess you must
>> always see at least a little bit of background.
>>
>> Dimi
>>
>> 2016-05-12 11:54 GMT+02:00 <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I get some more info on this (English presumably will be ok). Or
>>> just to shorten it, Is there a FoP for commercial use in Belgium being
>>> currently proposed? And will it be voted?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aktron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> > Od: Robin Pepermans <[email protected]>
>>> > Komu: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > Datum: 12.05.2016 09:29
>>> > Předmět: Re: [Publicpolicy] Selfies at the Atomium soon legally
>>> >
>>> There will apparently be a second reading in committee on the request of
>>> PS (Parti Socialiste). No information on when that would be, but we'll
>>> contact MPs to try to find out.
>>>
>>> The media expects this bill to pass very easily though, given the
>>> cross-party political support.
>>> Regards
>>> SPQRobin
>>>
>>> 2016-05-11 15:59 GMT+02:00 Jan Gerlach <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> This is great, Romaine!
>>>> When would you expect the vote in Parliament?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Selfies at the Atomium soon legally"
>>>>> was the title of an article of 11 May of De Redactie at:
>>>>> http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/politiek/1.2652533
>>>>>
>>>>> A quote translated:
>>>>> The Parliamentary Committee for Economy is almost finished with the
>>>>> introduction of the so-called "freedom of panorama".
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems the next step has been taken!
>>>>> Romaine
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