Thanks Jan! We just released the FoP study: http://www.communia-association.org/2016/06/07/freedom-panorama-bcs-copyright/
Best, Teresa 2016-06-07 9:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Gerlach <[email protected]>: > Hi Lisette and Teresa > > Congratulations on a great campaign and thanks for sharing it on this > list! I really like the approach and am very curious about the forthcoming > case studies. > I appreciate that you set expectations right ("EU copyright reform won’t > fix it all.") and give best practice examples of norms that are actually in > effect. > > Best, > Jan > > == > > > Jan Gerlach > Public Policy Manager > Wikimedia Foundation > 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94105 > [email protected] > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Teresa Nobre <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Raul, >> >> If you wait 2 more days, you can read the 10-page report that I prepared >> on the Portuguese study. >> As you will see, public interiors is not an issue in Portugal, because we >> have a broad definition of public space elsewhere in the Portuguese >> Copyright Code. The fact that this is a relatively abstract norm (with a >> wording very similar to the InfoSoc), only raises interpretation issues >> with regards to the purposes. But the fact that the norm doesn't exclude a >> priory commercial purposes can only be seen as a positive thing. The rest >> of the concepts (e.g. "use", "works") are defined in other norms, so they >> are not vague at all. >> >> Thanks, >> Teresa >> >> >> >> 2016-06-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Raul Veede <[email protected]>: >> >>> Well, Estonian FoP was today discussed in the Parliamentary Committee of >>> Culture, and we're hoping to present the case in the Committee of European >>> Affairs in close days. >>> >>> The Portuguese scenario has at least three weaknesses I can identify >>> (I've written about it in short in a comment on your blog post, and in >>> length to Teresa Nobre personally; to count quickly, it leaves unclear the >>> situations with public interiors and several types of works, and prescribes >>> provisions so vague that every politician would be proud to include such >>> language in their election program) and if it were adopted in Estonia, we >>> would actually lose some territory that is currently covered by NC FoP and >>> by the draft bill I wrote would become also free commercially. >>> >>> So please excuse me but we're in a bit of a hurry here yet would still >>> be greatly interested in reasons for going backwards. >>> >>> Also, my experience shows it is hard to get Communia to respond to >>> anything. You don't exactly try to communicate with people who comment on >>> your blog or FB, and your posts have a constant lack of references and >>> analysis. If you're saying you are recommending the best scenarios without >>> having any analysis to back up your recommendations yet, it sounds, >>> unfortunately, believable. Care to disprove my cynicism? >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Raul >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Lisette Kalshoven <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Raul, >>>> >>>> The supporting documents (with full legal analysis) will be published >>>> when we share the individual scenario’s over the next 3-4 weeks. This is >>>> just us announcing the series. So stay tuned :) >>>> >>>> With kind regards >>>> >>>> Lisette >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kennisland | www.kennisland.nl | t +31205756720 | m +31613943237 | >>>> @lnkalshoven | skype: lisette.kalshoven >>>> >>>> On 06 Jun 2016, at 15:46, Raul Veede <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Your proposal of the Portuguese scenario as a good example for adopting >>>> across Europe made me wondering what might be the reasoning behind that. >>>> In the piece published today you only count the examples but do not offer >>>> any analysis, proof, or legal reasons. Would you be so nice and expand it >>>> beyond pure rhetorics? >>>> >>>> All the best >>>> >>>> Raul >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Lisette Kalshoven <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Wikimedians, >>>>> >>>>> Today at Communia we’re launching the Best Case Scenarios for >>>>> Copyright <http://www.communia-association.org/bcs-copyright/> series, >>>>> to promote great solutions such as user-friendly copyright limitations. >>>>> They work in some EU countries and we want to talk about making them (and >>>>> other good ones) mandatory for the whole EU. It would be great if you >>>>> could >>>>> promote the message via social media and any other communication with your >>>>> partners. >>>>> >>>>> Today we introduce the idea for the campaign and on Wednesday we will >>>>> publish the first case. Today’s post may be found here >>>>> <http://www.communia-association.org/2016/06/06/bcs-copyright/> and >>>>> Communia TT is here >>>>> <https://twitter.com/communia_eu/status/739782579952443392>. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Lisette Kalshoven >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kennisland | www.kennisland.nl | t +31205756720 | m +31613943237 | >>>>> @lnkalshoven | skype: lisette.kalshoven >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > >
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